Best Rider Outside Top Division
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
Final score:
Feital 7
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De Wispelaere 2
Fontes 0
Feital 7
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De Wispelaere 2
Fontes 0
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
Joop De Wispelaere
De Wispelaere 2
Feital 6
Fontes 0
De Wispelaere 2
Feital 6
Fontes 0
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Feital
De Wispelaere 1
Feital 6
Fontes 0
De Wispelaere 1
Feital 6
Fontes 0
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Clóvis Feital
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Clóvis Feital
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Clóvis Feital
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De Wispelaere 1
Feital 1
Fontes 0
Feital 1
Fontes 0
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
vote: Clóvis Feital
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all fine for me, see no problems
checked
-Radoslav Dechev (1304 points, 8 wins including Perm Tour and Perm Tour SC), 4 others * checked
-Athol McCann (1050 points, 3 wins including Turnai - Turnai, Haute-Normandie and Minsk CBGP), 4 others * checked
-Egon Adamski (1180 points, 11 wins), 3 others * checked
-Benjamim Fontes (1600 points, 4 wins), 7 others * checked
-Clóvis Feital (929 points, 7 wins including Norway Tour and Tour of Hawaii), 4 others * checked
-Joop De Wispelaere (862 points, 10 wins including Giro di Sicilia), 4 others * checked
-Hadley Childers (1645 points, 3 wins), 10 others * checked
-Elias Roesner (845 points, 4 wins including NL Tour), 2 others * checked
-Wout Pierewaaijer (730 points, 4 wins including Grasse-Toulon and Vejle-Kobenhavn), no others * checked
-Claude Schwabs (674 points, 7 wins including Fast on Wheels GC, SC and YC), 5 others * checked
others, all 2 wins or more (top 75 moment checking)
Isidoro Morgovejo, 4 wins, 9 others *
Troels Smidt, 2 wins, 6 others
Valente Imbrignbio, 6 wins, 7 others **
Bernhard Claassen, 2 wins, 6 others
Cas Waterreus, 2 wins, 2 others
Kholadeth Ammouayphone, 3 wins, 3 others
Hermann Normann, 2 wins, 4 others
Phineas Croft, 3 wins, no others
Sean Anesi, 3 wins, 9 others
Xalbador Varela, 2 wins, 2 others
Stephan Osberg, 4 wins, 5 others *
Berhold Ketjijere, 2 wins, 5 others
Hektor Jansson, 2 wins, 3 others
Toulakham Dalaphone, 2 wins, 1 others
Marco Jänich, 4 wins, 2 others *
Kenn Beierholm, 2 wins, 5 others
Akkas Ömür, 2 wins, 2 others
Jef van den Kroon, 3 wins, 1 others
Viggo Høj, 2 wins, 7 others
checked
-Radoslav Dechev (1304 points, 8 wins including Perm Tour and Perm Tour SC), 4 others * checked
-Athol McCann (1050 points, 3 wins including Turnai - Turnai, Haute-Normandie and Minsk CBGP), 4 others * checked
-Egon Adamski (1180 points, 11 wins), 3 others * checked
-Benjamim Fontes (1600 points, 4 wins), 7 others * checked
-Clóvis Feital (929 points, 7 wins including Norway Tour and Tour of Hawaii), 4 others * checked
-Joop De Wispelaere (862 points, 10 wins including Giro di Sicilia), 4 others * checked
-Hadley Childers (1645 points, 3 wins), 10 others * checked
-Elias Roesner (845 points, 4 wins including NL Tour), 2 others * checked
-Wout Pierewaaijer (730 points, 4 wins including Grasse-Toulon and Vejle-Kobenhavn), no others * checked
-Claude Schwabs (674 points, 7 wins including Fast on Wheels GC, SC and YC), 5 others * checked
others, all 2 wins or more (top 75 moment checking)
Isidoro Morgovejo, 4 wins, 9 others *
Troels Smidt, 2 wins, 6 others
Valente Imbrignbio, 6 wins, 7 others **
Bernhard Claassen, 2 wins, 6 others
Cas Waterreus, 2 wins, 2 others
Kholadeth Ammouayphone, 3 wins, 3 others
Hermann Normann, 2 wins, 4 others
Phineas Croft, 3 wins, no others
Sean Anesi, 3 wins, 9 others
Xalbador Varela, 2 wins, 2 others
Stephan Osberg, 4 wins, 5 others *
Berhold Ketjijere, 2 wins, 5 others
Hektor Jansson, 2 wins, 3 others
Toulakham Dalaphone, 2 wins, 1 others
Marco Jänich, 4 wins, 2 others *
Kenn Beierholm, 2 wins, 5 others
Akkas Ömür, 2 wins, 2 others
Jef van den Kroon, 3 wins, 1 others
Viggo Høj, 2 wins, 7 others
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
Outside Top Division is everything that is not 1. So 1.1 and ND count for this category.
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what are the rules about 1.1 races and ND races, and races like that
example, Isidoro Morgovejo
example, Isidoro Morgovejo
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
To vote #3
Name: Joop De Wispelaere
Team: Uphill Battle
OCM Tour Rank: 41
OCM Tour Points: 862
Points inside category: 862 (100%)
10 wins inside category (7 Div 4, 2 Div 5, 1 Div 6), including Giro di Sicilia (Div 4)
4 other results inside category (1 Div 3, 2 Div 4, 1 Div 6), 2nd Race of the Minutemen SC and 3rd Baltimore Invitational (both Div 4)
Name: Joop De Wispelaere
Team: Uphill Battle
OCM Tour Rank: 41
OCM Tour Points: 862
Points inside category: 862 (100%)
10 wins inside category (7 Div 4, 2 Div 5, 1 Div 6), including Giro di Sicilia (Div 4)
4 other results inside category (1 Div 3, 2 Div 4, 1 Div 6), 2nd Race of the Minutemen SC and 3rd Baltimore Invitational (both Div 4)
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To vote #2
Name: Clóvis Feital
Team: BGK Cycling Team
OCM Tour Rank: 30
OCM Tour Points: 929
Points inside category: 929 (100%)
7 wins inside category (2 Div 2, 4 Div 3, 1 Div ND), including Norway Tour and Tour of Hawaii (both Div 3)
4 other results inside category (2 Div 2, 2 Div 3), including 5th Coppa della Famiglia del Don (Div 2)
Name: Clóvis Feital
Team: BGK Cycling Team
OCM Tour Rank: 30
OCM Tour Points: 929
Points inside category: 929 (100%)
7 wins inside category (2 Div 2, 4 Div 3, 1 Div ND), including Norway Tour and Tour of Hawaii (both Div 3)
4 other results inside category (2 Div 2, 2 Div 3), including 5th Coppa della Famiglia del Don (Div 2)
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To vote #1
Name: Benjamim Fontes
Team: Cokol Breakaway Team
OCM Tour Rank: 2
OCM Tour Points: 2096
Points inside category: 1600 (76%)
4 wins inside category (1 Div 1.1, 3 Div 2)
7 other results inside category (All Div 2), including 4th Haute-Normandie and 4th Minsk CBGP
Name: Benjamim Fontes
Team: Cokol Breakaway Team
OCM Tour Rank: 2
OCM Tour Points: 2096
Points inside category: 1600 (76%)
4 wins inside category (1 Div 1.1, 3 Div 2)
7 other results inside category (All Div 2), including 4th Haute-Normandie and 4th Minsk CBGP
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Nominated:
Name: Athol McCann
Team: UK Postal Service
OCM Tour Rank:19
OCM Tour Points: 1050
Points inside category: 1050 (100%)
3 wins inside category, including Haute-Normandie and Minsk CBGP (bothe Div 2) and Turnai - Turnai (Div 3)
4 other results inside category (All Div 2)
Name: Egon Adamski
Team: Dinosaur Racers
OCM Tour Rank:11
OCM Tour Points: 1180
Points inside category: 1180 (100%)
11 wins inside category (5 Div 3, 6 Div 4)
3 other results inside category (2 Div 3, 1 Div 4)
Name: Radoslav Dechev
Team: Matrix team
OCM Tour Rank:8
OCM Tour Points: 1304
Points inside category: 1304 (100%)
8 wins inside category (3 Div 2, 5 Div 3), including Perm Tour and Perm Tour SC (Div 3)
4 other results inside category (1 Div 2, 3 Div 3), including 2nd Norway Tour (Div 3)
Name: Athol McCann
Team: UK Postal Service
OCM Tour Rank:19
OCM Tour Points: 1050
Points inside category: 1050 (100%)
3 wins inside category, including Haute-Normandie and Minsk CBGP (bothe Div 2) and Turnai - Turnai (Div 3)
4 other results inside category (All Div 2)
Name: Egon Adamski
Team: Dinosaur Racers
OCM Tour Rank:11
OCM Tour Points: 1180
Points inside category: 1180 (100%)
11 wins inside category (5 Div 3, 6 Div 4)
3 other results inside category (2 Div 3, 1 Div 4)
Name: Radoslav Dechev
Team: Matrix team
OCM Tour Rank:8
OCM Tour Points: 1304
Points inside category: 1304 (100%)
8 wins inside category (3 Div 2, 5 Div 3), including Perm Tour and Perm Tour SC (Div 3)
4 other results inside category (1 Div 2, 3 Div 3), including 2nd Norway Tour (Div 3)
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
I like it. It's an almost impossible category though, it feels so weird to leave someone like Childers out but I don't see any of the others not deserving their place either.
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
So like this?
For sure:
Egon Adamski (1180 points, 11 wins)
Radoslav Dechev (1304 points, 8 wins including Perm Tour and Perm Tour SC)
Athol McCann (1050 points, 3 wins including Turnai - Turnai, Haute-Normandie and Minsk CBGP)
To vote:
Clóvis Feital (929 points, 7 wins including Norway Tour and Tour of Hawaii)
Joop De Wispelaere (862 points, 10 wins including Giro di Sicilia)
Benjamim Fontes (1600 points, 4 wins)
Out:
Hadley Childers (1645 points, 3 wins)
Elias Roesner (845 points, 4 wins including NL Tour)
Wout Pierewaaijer (730 points, 4 wins including Grasse-Toulon and Vejle-Kobenhavn)
Claude Schwabs (674 points, 7 wins including Fast on Wheels GC, SC and YC)
For sure:
Egon Adamski (1180 points, 11 wins)
Radoslav Dechev (1304 points, 8 wins including Perm Tour and Perm Tour SC)
Athol McCann (1050 points, 3 wins including Turnai - Turnai, Haute-Normandie and Minsk CBGP)
To vote:
Clóvis Feital (929 points, 7 wins including Norway Tour and Tour of Hawaii)
Joop De Wispelaere (862 points, 10 wins including Giro di Sicilia)
Benjamim Fontes (1600 points, 4 wins)
Out:
Hadley Childers (1645 points, 3 wins)
Elias Roesner (845 points, 4 wins including NL Tour)
Wout Pierewaaijer (730 points, 4 wins including Grasse-Toulon and Vejle-Kobenhavn)
Claude Schwabs (674 points, 7 wins including Fast on Wheels GC, SC and YC)
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
It's a bit unfair of me, but I see those as a little less valuable because he got 5 of the 10 in the same Tour. And with the overall points difference Adamski is clearly better.
Very impressive season from De Wispelaere though. I suggest to put him on the voting as well, there's room for 3 riders to vote on.
And maybe Fontes should not be in the top-3 but voted on? Might be a bit controversial, but he doesn't have any big results in Div2, and should really have scored better given his stature in Div1 the past seasons.
Very impressive season from De Wispelaere though. I suggest to put him on the voting as well, there's room for 3 riders to vote on.
And maybe Fontes should not be in the top-3 but voted on? Might be a bit controversial, but he doesn't have any big results in Div2, and should really have scored better given his stature in Div1 the past seasons.
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Allright, but what about Joop De Wispelaere then?
10 wins in Division 4 with Sicilia is also special.
10 wins in Division 4 with Sicilia is also special.
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For me, Adamski beats Childers because 11 wins is just so special. Especially since he got them in a steady Div3/4 team, with no exceptional support. Will post the same in the Sprinter category.
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
Thinking about:
For sure:
Benjamim Fontes (1600 points, 4 wins)
Hadley Childers (1645 points, 3 wins)
Radoslav Dechev (1304 points, 8 wins including Perm Tour and Perm Tour SC)
To vote:
Athol McCann (1050 points, 3 wins including Turnai - Turnai, Haute-Normandie and Minsk CBGP)
Clóvis Feital (929 points, 7 wins including Norway Tour and Tour of Hawaii)
Out:
Elias Roesner (845 points, 4 wins including NL Tour)
Wout Pierewaaijer (730 points, 4 wins including Grasse-Toulon and Vejle-Kobenhavn)
Claude Schwabs (674 points, 7 wins including Fast on Wheels GC, SC and YC)
Egon Adamski (1180 points, 11 wins)
Joop De Wispelaere (862 points, 10 wins including Giro di Sicilia)
And many more good riders. I always have trouble with this category...
For sure:
Benjamim Fontes (1600 points, 4 wins)
Hadley Childers (1645 points, 3 wins)
Radoslav Dechev (1304 points, 8 wins including Perm Tour and Perm Tour SC)
To vote:
Athol McCann (1050 points, 3 wins including Turnai - Turnai, Haute-Normandie and Minsk CBGP)
Clóvis Feital (929 points, 7 wins including Norway Tour and Tour of Hawaii)
Out:
Elias Roesner (845 points, 4 wins including NL Tour)
Wout Pierewaaijer (730 points, 4 wins including Grasse-Toulon and Vejle-Kobenhavn)
Claude Schwabs (674 points, 7 wins including Fast on Wheels GC, SC and YC)
Egon Adamski (1180 points, 11 wins)
Joop De Wispelaere (862 points, 10 wins including Giro di Sicilia)
And many more good riders. I always have trouble with this category...
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Best Rider Outside Top Division
Rules for this category:
Points inside category are any points scored outside of Top Division.
The rider is allowed to have scored inside Top Division, those results simply don't count.
The format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category:
wins inside category, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results inside category, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
Points inside category: 700 (100%)
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
Points inside category are any points scored outside of Top Division.
The rider is allowed to have scored inside Top Division, those results simply don't count.
The format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category:
wins inside category, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results inside category, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
Points inside category: 700 (100%)
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
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