Best Rider Outside Top Division
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
Very close here, but Uchmann takes it 3-2-2
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Voted Uchman
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Arseny gets my vote
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Sedelnikov gets my vote.
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Looks ready to me too.
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Checked and all info looks correct.
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Just out in sprinting scene as well. Don't see how he would survive the vote to become the 4th nominee.
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Yes, though decision. But there are a lot of sprinters in the top of the ranks, so it kinda makes sense I hope. He just lacks a big win or a great amount of wins.
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There's nothing wrong with the nominees, they all have great results, but it feel weird to not include Maes in neither Best Sprinter nor Best rider outside TD. He was ranked 8th. Not that many wins, 3 in div 2, but 10 other results all in div 2 including 4 classics.
Also wouldnt know who to leave out, but on the other hand I also feel like he is at least not worse than the current votes in both categories.
Also wouldnt know who to leave out, but on the other hand I also feel like he is at least not worse than the current votes in both categories.
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To vote #3
Name: Arseny Dobrolyubov
Team: ArxhangiiliPoznyakax
OCM Tour Rank: 32
OCM Tour Points: 890
Points inside category: 890
6 wins inside category (4 div 3, 2 div 4), including Norway Tour SC
9 other results inside category (6 div 3, 3 div 4), including 2nd Giro di Sicilia (div 4), 2nd Perm Tour SC (div 3)
Name: Arseny Dobrolyubov
Team: ArxhangiiliPoznyakax
OCM Tour Rank: 32
OCM Tour Points: 890
Points inside category: 890
6 wins inside category (4 div 3, 2 div 4), including Norway Tour SC
9 other results inside category (6 div 3, 3 div 4), including 2nd Giro di Sicilia (div 4), 2nd Perm Tour SC (div 3)
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To vote #2
Name: Gracjan Uchman
Team: V02maXXers
OCM Tour Rank: 118
OCM Tour Points: 560
Points inside category: 560
5 wins inside category (3 div 2, 2 div 3), including Haute-Normandie (div 2), Volta da Lagoa dos Patos (div 3)
0 other results inside category
Name: Gracjan Uchman
Team: V02maXXers
OCM Tour Rank: 118
OCM Tour Points: 560
Points inside category: 560
5 wins inside category (3 div 2, 2 div 3), including Haute-Normandie (div 2), Volta da Lagoa dos Patos (div 3)
0 other results inside category
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
To vote #1
Name: Yermolay Sedelnikov
Team: chupacabra
OCM Tour Rank: 23
OCM Tour Points: 960
Points inside category: 960
5 wins inside category (all div 2), including Coppa della Famiglia del Don
3 other results inside category (all div 2)
Name: Yermolay Sedelnikov
Team: chupacabra
OCM Tour Rank: 23
OCM Tour Points: 960
Points inside category: 960
5 wins inside category (all div 2), including Coppa della Famiglia del Don
3 other results inside category (all div 2)
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
Certain:
Name: Rado Holečko
Team: Lokomotíva Zvolen
OCM Tour Rank: 12
OCM Tour Points: 1144
Points inside category: 1144
5 wins inside category (all div 3), including Norway Tour
8 other results inside category (4 div 2, 1 div 2.1, 3 div 3), including 2nd Perm Tour (div 3), 3rd Vuelta a Valparaìso (div 2), 6th Coppa della Famiglia del Don (div 2)
Name: Kerry Hadaway
Team: team futerko
OCM Tour Rank: 17
OCM Tour Points: 1064
Points inside category: 904
8 wins inside category (3 div 1.1, 4 div 2, 1 div ND), including Nederlandse Tour (div 1.1), Volta ao Porto SC (div 2), Vejle-København (div ND)
1 other result inside category (div 2)
Name: Alfred Zwolinski
Team: Lots o Huggin Bear
OCM Tour Rank: 4
OCM Tour Points: 1348
Points inside category: 1348
9 wins inside category (1 div 1.1, 3 div 3, 3 div 4, 2 div 6), including Perm Tour SC
8 other results inside category (1 div 1.1, 3 div 2, 4 div 3), including 2nd Helsinki GP Mini (div 2), 2nd Norway Tour SC (div 3), 4th Grasse – Toulon (div 2), 6th Nederlandse Tour (div 1.1)
Name: Rado Holečko
Team: Lokomotíva Zvolen
OCM Tour Rank: 12
OCM Tour Points: 1144
Points inside category: 1144
5 wins inside category (all div 3), including Norway Tour
8 other results inside category (4 div 2, 1 div 2.1, 3 div 3), including 2nd Perm Tour (div 3), 3rd Vuelta a Valparaìso (div 2), 6th Coppa della Famiglia del Don (div 2)
Name: Kerry Hadaway
Team: team futerko
OCM Tour Rank: 17
OCM Tour Points: 1064
Points inside category: 904
8 wins inside category (3 div 1.1, 4 div 2, 1 div ND), including Nederlandse Tour (div 1.1), Volta ao Porto SC (div 2), Vejle-København (div ND)
1 other result inside category (div 2)
Name: Alfred Zwolinski
Team: Lots o Huggin Bear
OCM Tour Rank: 4
OCM Tour Points: 1348
Points inside category: 1348
9 wins inside category (1 div 1.1, 3 div 3, 3 div 4, 2 div 6), including Perm Tour SC
8 other results inside category (1 div 1.1, 3 div 2, 4 div 3), including 2nd Helsinki GP Mini (div 2), 2nd Norway Tour SC (div 3), 4th Grasse – Toulon (div 2), 6th Nederlandse Tour (div 1.1)
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Ah I see. I thought you wanted him out
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To be more clear, I do agree he deserves a nomination, I just like Holecko and Hadaway better.
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Let me list the results of Alfred Zwolinski:
OCM Tour Rank: 4
OCM Tour Points: 1348
Points inside category: 1348
9 wins inside category (1 div 1.1, 3 div 3, 3 div 4, 2 div 6), including Perm Tour SC
8 other results inside category (1 div 1.1, 3 div 2, 4 div 3), including 2nd Helsinki GP Mini (div 2), 2nd Norway Tour SC (div 3), 4th Grasse – Toulon (div 2), 6th Nederlandse Tour (div 1.1)
I do not see how that is not worthy of the nomination.
Douglas and Elias do not have a big win and not a lot of wins, so they will not make it.
Sedelnikov is indeed a good candidate. Perhaps as third to vote on?
OCM Tour Rank: 4
OCM Tour Points: 1348
Points inside category: 1348
9 wins inside category (1 div 1.1, 3 div 3, 3 div 4, 2 div 6), including Perm Tour SC
8 other results inside category (1 div 1.1, 3 div 2, 4 div 3), including 2nd Helsinki GP Mini (div 2), 2nd Norway Tour SC (div 3), 4th Grasse – Toulon (div 2), 6th Nederlandse Tour (div 1.1)
I do not see how that is not worthy of the nomination.
Douglas and Elias do not have a big win and not a lot of wins, so they will not make it.
Sedelnikov is indeed a good candidate. Perhaps as third to vote on?
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
ahhh... a more subjective category.
Yermolay Sedelnikov? - 24th(-ish) in rankings), Coppa della Famiglia del Don winner, 4 other 1sts in 2nd division
And I feel like I have to mention two 'nearly' from the young rider side:
-Douglas Brasil
-Elias Roesner
I really like Holecko and Hadaway in this category.
But I'm not a huge fan of Zwolinksi here, to be honest. Some wins way down the table, and the above have results that look more impressive to me.
Yermolay Sedelnikov? - 24th(-ish) in rankings), Coppa della Famiglia del Don winner, 4 other 1sts in 2nd division
And I feel like I have to mention two 'nearly' from the young rider side:
-Douglas Brasil
-Elias Roesner
I really like Holecko and Hadaway in this category.
But I'm not a huge fan of Zwolinksi here, to be honest. Some wins way down the table, and the above have results that look more impressive to me.
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And I would like to swap Arseny for Alfred.
So this is my proposal:
Certain:
Alfred Zwolinski
Rado Holečko
Kerry Hadaway
To vote:
Arseny Dobrolyubov
Gracjan Uchman
Maybe in: Romuald Maes
So this is my proposal:
Certain:
Alfred Zwolinski
Rado Holečko
Kerry Hadaway
To vote:
Arseny Dobrolyubov
Gracjan Uchman
Maybe in: Romuald Maes
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What about Gracjan Uchman. He won two tours. I think I prefer him over Romuald Maes.
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Pre-nominated riders:
Toller Péter just not made it with just one win.
Riste Nestorovski is Riste Nikolovski I believe. He won Monte Rosa Tour. That's about it.
Toller Péter just not made it with just one win.
Riste Nestorovski is Riste Nikolovski I believe. He won Monte Rosa Tour. That's about it.
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Re: Best Rider Outside Top Division
I'd say Rado, Arseny and Kerry, with Ronald and Zwol for the vote.
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It is between these guys for me:
Romuald Maes 3 wins, 10 results 1190 points
Miles Illingworth 1 win, 5 results 1180 points
Alfred Zwolinski 9 wins incl Perm SC, 8 results 1348 points
Kerry Hadaway 8 wins incl NL Tour, Volta SC, Vejle-Kobenhavn, 1 result, 904 points
Vincenzio Labin 8 wins incl Cup of the Four Rivers, 1 results, 526 points
Arseny Dobrolyubov 6 wins incl Norway SC, 9 results, 890 points
Luke Gartner 6 wins incl Valparaiso GC+SC, 480 points
Rado Holečko 5 wins incl Norway Tour, 10 results, 1144 points
Gracjan Uchman 5 wins incl Volta da Lagoa dos Patos and H-N, 560 points
Romuald Maes 3 wins, 10 results 1190 points
Miles Illingworth 1 win, 5 results 1180 points
Alfred Zwolinski 9 wins incl Perm SC, 8 results 1348 points
Kerry Hadaway 8 wins incl NL Tour, Volta SC, Vejle-Kobenhavn, 1 result, 904 points
Vincenzio Labin 8 wins incl Cup of the Four Rivers, 1 results, 526 points
Arseny Dobrolyubov 6 wins incl Norway SC, 9 results, 890 points
Luke Gartner 6 wins incl Valparaiso GC+SC, 480 points
Rado Holečko 5 wins incl Norway Tour, 10 results, 1144 points
Gracjan Uchman 5 wins incl Volta da Lagoa dos Patos and H-N, 560 points
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Community Pre-Nominations (of course you still decide if you want to nominate them):
Toller Péter, reason: being so high up in the rankings should put his name ip for the best rider not in top division too. (note from Don, nominated for Climber as well)
Arseny Dobrolyubov (ArxhangiiliPoznyakax), reason: 5 victories in stages/one day races, Norway Tour SC, 7 2nds on stages/one day races, 2nd overall Sicilia, 2nd Perm SC, 1 3rd. 35th in OCM Tour (as of day 85).
Riste Nestorovski
Toller Péter, reason: being so high up in the rankings should put his name ip for the best rider not in top division too. (note from Don, nominated for Climber as well)
Arseny Dobrolyubov (ArxhangiiliPoznyakax), reason: 5 victories in stages/one day races, Norway Tour SC, 7 2nds on stages/one day races, 2nd overall Sicilia, 2nd Perm SC, 1 3rd. 35th in OCM Tour (as of day 85).
Riste Nestorovski
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Best Rider Outside Top Division
Rules for this category:
Points inside category are any points scored outside of Top Division.
The rider is allowed to have scored inside Top Division, those results simply don't count.
The format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category:
wins inside category, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results inside category, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
Points inside category: 700 (100%)
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
Points inside category are any points scored outside of Top Division.
The rider is allowed to have scored inside Top Division, those results simply don't count.
The format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category:
wins inside category, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results inside category, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
Points inside category: 700 (100%)
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
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