Best Tour Team of the last two seasons (S69&S70)

Final:

Name: Snowbear
Team: Alpine
4 GC wins: Vuelta de los Castillos, Scottish Heritage Tour, Taiwan Black Bear Tour (all S69), Tweedagse van Antwerpen S70 (all Div. 1).
8 GC results: 2nd Germany Tour S70, 4th Germany Tour S69, 4th Essex Tour S70, 4th Patryk Drozdowski Trophy S69/70, 4th Taiwan Black Bear Tour S70, 6th Essex Tour S69, 2nd Scottish Heritage Tour S70, 4th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen S69
No YC/SC wins.
4 YC/SC Results: 2nd Germany Tour YC S69, 3rd Germany Tour YC S70, 3rd Scottish Heritage Tour YC S70, 3rd Vuelta de los Castillos SC S69 (all Div. 1).
8 Stage wins, all Div. 1.
10 Stage results, all Div. 1.

Name: Michael Danner
Team: CyclingClubChomutov
5 GC wins: The Two Pass Tour S69, Cymru Taith S69, Tour of the Ganges S69/70 (Div. 2), Tour of the Western Cape S70 (Div. 3)
5 GC results: 2nd Cymru Taith S69, 4th Cymru Taith S70 (Div. 2), 2nd Giro di Montelbano S70, 2nd The Two Pass Tour S70, 2nd Karpaty Tyr S70 (Div. 3)
6 YC/SC wins: Cymru Taith YC S69/70, Tour of the Ganges YC S69/70 (Div. 2), Karpaty Tyr YC S70, Tour of the Western Cape YC S70 (Div. 3)
1 YC/SC Result: 3rd Tour of the Ganges S69 (Div. 2)
7 Stage wins: 4 Div. 2, 3 Div. 3
14 Stage results: 10 Div. 2, 4 Div. 3

Name: virenque
Team: mapei bianchi
7 GC wins: Germany Tour S70, Essex Tour S70, Patryk Drozdowski Trophy S69/70, Scottish Heritage Tpur S70, Taiwan Black Bear Tour S70 (all Div. 1), Volta ao Porto S70 (Div. 2).
5 GC results: 2nd Taiwan Black bear Tour S69, 2nd Scottish Heritage Tour S69, 3rd Vuelta de Los Castillos S70, 3rd Germany Tour S69, 3rd Essex Tour S69 (all Div. 1).
No YC/SC wins or results.
10 Stage wins: 7 in Div. 1, 3 in Div. 2.
20 Stage results: 18 in Div. 1, 2 in Div. 2

Name: Pedalling Squares
Team: UK Postal Service
3 GC wins: Nederlandse Tour S69+S70, Cop Salsa de Cali S69 (all Div. 1)
2 GC results: 2nd Tweedaagse van Antwerpen S69 (Div. 1), 5th Haute-Normandie S70 (Div. 2)
2 YC/SC wins: Tweedaagse van Antwerpen S69 YC (Div. 1), Tour of the Ganges S70 SC (Div. 2)
0 YC/SC Results
11 Stage wins: 9 in Div. 1, 2 in Div. 2
8 Stage results: 5 in Div. 1, 3 in Div. 2

Ukps

UKPS

(Always a tough category, nice work)

UK Postal Service
Nice work Sits2

OK!

Devil's Tour is just a one day race.
Cup YC's actually do not exist. They are a mistake on the rider page.

Thank you! All corrected.

Why do those two results not count?

Checked the numbers. Looks good with lots of info

I have a few corrections:

Name: Snowbear
8 GC results: to add 2nd Scottish Heritage Tour S70, 4th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen S69
4 YC/SC Results: 3rd Patryk Drozdowski Trophy YC S70 (does not count),
8 Stage wins, all Div. 1.

Name: Nooky Lair
7 GC results: 3rd Devil's Tour of Tasmania S70 (does not count)

Name: Thomas Anderson
4 YC/SC Results: 3rd Karpaty Tyr, Sprint Classification
12 Stage results: 1 in Div. 2, 5 in Div. 3, 2 in Divs.4-6, 4 in U23

I would place CCC, mapei bianchi and Alpine ahead of the others.
To my mind, the following 3 ones, to vote from, would be Matrix, UKPS, Silver Giant.

So having listened to what you said about the value of GC wins above all else, perhaps Team Oasis (nil) and Spin Doctors (one) are removed to bring us down to 6?

Obviously I’m here to learn but how does that sound?

So now we have 8 teams. Like Michael said, we can prioritize together. See what each of us thinks about this. Some are close, so there is no right or wrong.

Ok here is UK Postal Service, so I think I finally covered all the right teams (and some wrong ones!). I am going to learn from the discussions now:

Name: Pedalling Squares
Team: UK Postal Service
3 GC wins: Nederlandse Tour S69+S70, Cop Salsa de Cali S69 (all Div. 1)
2 GC results: 2nd Tweedaagse van Antwerpen S69 (Div. 1), 5th Haute-Normandie S70 (Div. 2)
2 YC/SC wins: Tweedaagse van Antwerpen S69 YC (Div. 1), Tour of the Ganges S70 SC (Div. 2)
0 YC/SC Results
11 Stage wins: 9 in Div. 1, 2 in Div. 2
8 Stage results: 5 in Div. 1, 3 in Div. 2

Well, a GC win is much harder than a GC result or a YC win.
But it is not black/white for me. But not winning a single tour makes it a bit shaky to me.

OK I should be able to do UK Postal tomorrow if that’s OK?

So wins more important than overall number of results?

Great work! Lots of text, but that is good
I will check numbers later.

I got UK Postal Service as well. 3 GCs, 2 SC/YC and 11 stage wins. I prefer them over Team Oasis and Spin Doctors.

OK this makes seven, unless you think Silenzio or sicco should be in.

Apologies from r going over the six maximum.

Name: Oli
Team: Spin Doctors
1 GC win: Coppa della Famiglia del Don S70 (Div. 2)
8 GC results: 3rd Nederlandse Tour S70 (Div. 1), 3rd Vuelta a Valparaiso S70, 5th Tour of the Ganges S70, 8th Vuelta de los Castillos S70, 9th The Two Pass Tour S70 (all Div. 2), 3rd Kangaroo Tour S69, 8th Edmonton Red Deer Tour S69 (all Div. 3), 4th Rundfahrt der Schlossen der Alpen S69 (Div. 4)
5 YC/SC wins: Vuelta a Valparaiso YC S70 (Div. 2), Kangaroo Tour YC S69, Karpaty Tyr SC S69 (Div. 3), Rundfahrt der Schlossen der Alpen YC S69, Race of the Minutemen SC S69 (Div. 4)
6 YC/SC Results: 2nd Vuelta de los Castillos YC S70, 3rd Tour of the Ganges YC S70, 2nd Volta ao Porto SC S70, 3rd Vuelta a Calparaiso S70 SC (Div. 2), 3rd Edmonton Red Deer Tour YC S69 (Div. 3), 3rd Race of the Minutemen SC S69 (Div. 4)
9 Stage wins: 3 in Div. 1, 4 in Div. 3, 2 in Div. 4
17 Stage results: 3 in Div. 1, 8 in Div. 2, 3 in Div. 3, 3 in Div. 4

Name: hhauge
Team: Silver Giant
4 GC wins: Giro di Montelbano S70, Karpaty Tyr S69+S70 (Div. 3), Rundfahrt der Schlossen der Slpen S69 (Div. 4)
9 GC results: 2nd Giro di Montelbano S69, 6th Coppa della Famiglia del Don S70 (Div. 2), 3rd Copa de la Historia de los Andes S70, 4th Volta da Lagoa dos Patos S70, 4th Tour of the Western Cape S70, 5th Norway Tour S70, 5th Perm Tour S70, 7th Norway Tour S69, 7th Perm Tour S69 (Div. 3)
1 YC/SC win: Giro di Montelbano YC S69 (Div. 3)
2 YC/SC Results: 2nd Volta da Lagoa dos Patos YC S70, 2nd Tour of the Western Cape YC S70 (Div. 3)
9 Stage wins: 6 in Div. 3, 3 in Div. 4
13 Stage results: 11 in Div. 3, 2 in Div. 4

I think if you do 7, we can then look at them, prioritise results and sort who should be nominated and then 3 to vote on

Adding them as I complete but now I have looked at S67/68 and feel less confident in my criteria. Ideally I will also add Silver Giant and Spin Doctors but that will be seven. Are there any I should definitely exclude, and why?

I'm on a learning curve!

Name: Nooky Lair
Team: Team Oasis 0/12
0 GC wins:
7 GC results: 2nd Vuelta de Los Castillos S69, 2nd Germany Tour S69, 2nd Payryk Dozbrowski Trophy S70, 2nd Vuelta de los Castillos S70, 6th Patryk Drozdowski Trophy S69, 7th Taiwan Black Bear Tour S70, 8th Taiwan Black Bear Tour S69 (all Div. 1)
3 YC/SC wins: Germany Tour YC S69, Vuelta de los Castillos YC S70, Taiwan Black Bear Tour YC S70 (all Div. 1)
2 YC/SC Results: 2nd Taiwan Black Bear Tour YC S69, 3rd Vuelta de los Castillos YC S70 (both Div. 1)
3 Stage wins all in Div. 1
6 Stage results all in Div. 1

Name: Thomas Anderson
Team: Matrix Team
3 GC wins: Vuelta a Calparaido S70 (Div. 2), Norway Tour S70 (Div. 3), Men Become Gods S69 (Divs.4-6)
7 GC results: 4th Tour of the Ganges S70 (Div. 2), 2nd + 8th Perm Tour S69, 3rd Karpaty Tyr S69, 3rd Norway Tour S69, 8th Norway Tour S70 (all Div. 3), 3rd La Generation Future S69 (U23)
4 YC/SC wins: Vuelta a Valparaiso SC S70 (Div. 2), Perm Tour YC S69, Karpaty Tyr YC S69 (Div. 3), Men Become Gods SC S69 (DIvs.4-6)
4 YC/SC Results: 3rd Karpaty Tyr, Sprint Classification S70, 3rd Norway Tour SC S70 (Div. 3), La Generation Future 2nd SC + 3rd YC S69 (U23)
12 Stage wins: 4 in Div. 2, 4 in Div. 3, 3 in Divs.4-6, 1 in U23
12 Stage results: 1 in Div. 2, 5 in Div. 3, 2 in Divs.4-6, 4 in U23

It will take a little while.

Based upon your comment I'm guessing my first 3 might not be entirely what you were expecting! The other teams I'm looking at are Team Oasis, Silver Giant, Matrix Team, Spin Doctors, Silenzio, UK Postal Service.

Are all the expected teams somewhere in those or the first three I've detailed?

Actually you did excellent. All these results are worth mentioning. Just compare S68 where also a lot of results are listed.
Very curious to see your other teams on 4,5,6

I’ve listed every single result, I realise now your example is not that detailed.

OK I have done my “top three” although I’m not 100% certain my choice for #3 is right yet. I have chosen 4, 5 and 6 but not written out all their stats yet, it takes me a while. I thought probably best to let you look at this to make sure I’m doing it correctly:

Name: virenque
Team: mapei bianchi
7 GC wins: Germany Tour S70, Essex Tour S70, Patryk Drozdowski Trophy S69/70, Scottish Heritage Tpur S70, Taiwan Black Bear Tour S70 (all Div. 1), Volta ao Porto S70 (Div. 2).
5 GC results: 2nd Taiwan Black bear Tour S69, 2nd Scottish Heritage Tour S69, 3rd Vuelta de Los Castillos S70, 3rd Germany Tour S69, 3rd Essex Tour S69 (all Div. 1).
No YC/SC wins or results.
10 Stage wins: 7 in Div. 1, 3 in Div. 2.
20 Stage results: 18 in Div. 1, 2 in Div. 2

Name: Snowbear
Team: Alpine
4 GC wins: Vuelta de los Castillos, Scottish Heritage Tour, Taiwan Black Bear Tour (all S69), Tweedagse van Antwerpen S70 (all Div. 1).
8 GC results: 2nd Germany Tour S70, 4th Germany Tour S69, 4th Essex Tour S70, 4th Patryk Drozdowski Trophy S69/70, 4th Taiwan Black Bear Tour S70, 6th Essex Tour S69, 2nd Scottish Heritage Tour S70, 4th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen S69
No YC/SC wins.
4 YC/SC Results: 2nd Germany Tour YC S69, 3rd Germany Tour YC S70, 3rd Scottish Heritage Tour YC S70, 3rd Vuelta de los Castillos SC S69 (all Div. 1).
8 Stage wins, all Div. 1.
10 Stage results, all Div. 1.

Name: Michael Danner
Team: CyclingClubChomutov
5 GC wins: The Two Pass Tour S69, Cymru Taith S69, Tour of the Ganges S69/70 (Div. 2), Tour of the Western Cape S70 (Div. 3)
5 GC results: 2nd Cymru Taith S69, 4th Cymru Taith S70 (Div. 2), 2nd Giro di Montelbano S70, 2nd The Two Pass Tour S70, 2nd Karpaty Tyr S70  (Div. 3)
6 YC/SC wins: Cymru Taith YC S69/70, Tour of the Ganges YC S69/70 (Div. 2), Karpaty Tyr YC S70, Tour of the Western Cape YC S70 (Div. 3)
1 YC/SC Result: 3rd Tour of the Ganges S69 (Div. 2)
7 Stage wins: 4 Div. 2, 3 Div. 3
14 Stage results: 10 Div. 2, 4 Div. 3

Remember, if you're nominating (or voting for that matters), GC's and YC's are always more important than SC's. And all of that is much more important than stages.

Format for this category:

Name:
Team:
GC wins mention tour wins,do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won), (season in which races were won)
GC results mention tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved), (season in which races were won)
YC/SC wins
YC/SC Results
Stage wins
Stage results

Name: Joan Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
1 GC win, Norway GC (Div3) (S70)
3 GC results, including 2nd Copa Andes GC (4 Div3) (1 S69, 2 S70)
1 YC/SC win, Norway YC (Div3) (S70)
no YC/SC results
4 stage wins (all Div3)
3 stage results (all Div3)

Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate Joan Doe