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Post  Don Hamstre Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:44 am

Roesner makes it in 4-2

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Post  English Sprinting Team Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:00 pm

Abstaining due to Roesner

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Post  Fox_River_Max Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:15 pm

Roesner for me. That end of season win streak was incredible.

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Post  Silenzio Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:50 am

Like to vote 2/2

Name: Elias Roesner
Team: English Sprinting Team
OCM Tour Rank: 16th
OCM Tour Points: 1020
Points inside Category: 1020 (100%)
6 wins (1 Div2, 3 Div2.1, 1 Div3)
4 other results (3 Div2.1, 1 Div3)

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Post  Silenzio Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:49 am

Like to vote 1/2

Name: Xalbador Varela
Team: Zalom
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 1345
Points inside Category: 1155 (86%)
3 wins, including Grasse-Toulon (1 Div1.2, 1 Div2)
5 other results (2 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 1 Div3)

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Post  Silenzio Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:26 pm

Will remove the notes

Mollerup and Torino are semiclassics. Will remove the mentions.

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Post  Holwerda Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:33 pm

What a category, nice list!

Three remarks:
Mollerup Memorial is a nice race, but not to be mentioned as including win for Xalbador Varela.
Also for Joop Temen, the mention of Milano-Torino is not correct.
Why a note for Temen? I can think of notes for Borges and others as well

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Post  Silenzio Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:32 pm

Thanks to input I changed into:

Nominated

Name: Fabio Borges
Team: Team AEK
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 1720
Points inside Category: 1560 (91%)
3 wins (all Div 1)
9 other results, including 2nd Vuelta Castillos SC (6 Div1, 3 Div1.1)

Name: Douglas Brasil
Team: Time Indaiatuba
OCM Tour Rank: 4th
OCM Tour Points: 1490
Points inside Category: 1390 (93%)
10 wins, including Kangaroo GC (1 Div 1, 1 Div 2.1, 8 Div3)
5 other results, including 2nd Grasse-Toulon, 5th Heslinki GP Mini, 7th Lappi Sea GP (4 Div2, 1 Div3)

Name: Joop Temen
Team: NJ Procyling
OCM Tour Rank: 11th
OCM Tour Points: 1090
Points inside Category: 1000 (91%)
3 wins, including Germany Tour SC (all Div1)
5 other results, including 5th Norwich-London (all Div1)


Vote 1/2

Name: Xalbador Varela
Team: Zalom
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 1345
Points inside Category: 1155 (86%)
3 wins, including Grasse-Toulon (1 Div1.2, 1 Div2)
5 other results (2 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 1 Div3)

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Name: Elias Roesner
Team: English Sprinting Team
OCM Tour Rank: 16th
OCM Tour Points: 1020
Points inside Category: 1020 (100%)
6 wins (1 Div2, 3 Div2.1, 1 Div3)
4 other results (3 Div2.1, 1 Div3)

OUT:
Name: Kerry Hadaway
Team: team futerko
OCM Tour Rank: 60th
OCM Tour Points: 725
Points inside Category: 725 (100%)
5 wins, including Volta ao Porto SC (all Div2)
3 other results, including 2nd Vejle-København (1 DivND, 2 Div2)
Note: assisted Hesler in 3 stagewins in NL Tour + Valparaiso SC,

Option:
Name: Alfred Zwolinski
Team: Lots o Huggin Bear
OCM Tour Rank: 14th
OCM Tour Points: 1050
Points inside Category: 970 (92%)
2 wins, including Nederlandse Tour GC (both Div1.1)
5 other results, including 4th Helsinki GP Mini (1 Div1, 1 Div 1.1, 3 Div2)

Option:
Name: Hermann Normann
Team: PEKAC B
OCM Tour Rank: 59th
OCM Tour Points: 726
Points inside Category: 970 (92%)
4 wins, including Vejle-København (1 DivND, 3 Div1)
1 other result, 6th Copa Salsa de Cali (Div1)

Option:
Name: Arnoldo Fava
Team: Nefal
OCM Tour Rank: 8th
OCM Tour Points: 1160
Points inside Category: 1045 (90%)
8 wins, including Norway Tour SC (1Div2, 4 Div3, 1 Div4, 1 Div5, 1 Div6)
5 other results, including 2nd Classico di Siracusa (1 Div2, 2 Div3, 2 Div5)


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Post  English Sprinting Team Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:36 pm

Sorry, just double checked the wrong category (I’m checking stats on my phone, probably not the best way haha)

Please ignore anything phone Michael says until I get back to my PC later Smile

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Post  Silenzio Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:29 pm

Not sure what you mean, Michael. Here as well only points, results and wins within category are counted. (Fava had 11 wins, 3 of which were not within the criteria, for instance)

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Post  English Sprinting Team Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:11 pm

What I did with the climbing category was wins and results inside of category (so didn’t count any results or wins that weren’t within the rules for that category). Just thinking, we do points within category with a percentage, surely only wins and results within category are relevant for Best Sprinter, Hiller, Downhiller and so on

(Please ignore this message, I’m being dumb when checking categories and stats haha)


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Post  Silenzio Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:52 pm

Don Hamstre wrote:As always, the level here is incredibly high. I think both Roesler and Zwol are better than Hadaway though. Could you put up their full stats so I can compare better?

Yes this are all the guys to be considered next to Varela for the vote. The reason I put Hadaway initially is because not only did he score impressive, but the team as a whole impressed (2 SCs and a sprintclassic), felt futerko deserved a mention here.

Option:
Name: Elias Roesner
Team: English Sprinting Team
OCM Tour Rank: 16th
OCM Tour Points: 1020
Points inside Category: 1020 (100%)
6 wins (1 Div2, 3 Div2.1, 1 Div3)
4 other results (3 Div2.1, 1 Div3)

Option:
Name: Alfred Zwolinski
Team: Lots o Huggin Bear
OCM Tour Rank: 14th
OCM Tour Points: 1050
Points inside Category: 970 (92%)
2 wins, including Nederlandse Tour GC (both Div1.1)
5 other results, including 4th Helsinki GP Mini (1 Div1, 1 Div 1.1, 3 Div2)

Option:
Name: Hermann Normann
Team: PEKAC B
OCM Tour Rank: 59th
OCM Tour Points: 726
Points inside Category: 970 (92%)
4 wins, including Vejle-København (1 DivND, 3 Div1)
1 other result, 6th Copa Salsa de Cali (Div1)

Option:
Name: Arnoldo Fava
Team: Nefal
OCM Tour Rank: 8th
OCM Tour Points: 1160
Points inside Category: 1045 (90%)
8 wins, including Norway Tour SC (1Div2, 4 Div3, 1 Div4, 1 Div5, 1 Div6)
5 other results, including 2nd Classico di Siracusa (1 Div2, 2 Div3, 2 Div5)

Option:
Name: Kerry Hadaway
Team: team futerko
OCM Tour Rank: 60th
OCM Tour Points: 725
Points inside Category: 725 (100%)
5 wins, including Volta ao Porto SC (all Div2)
3 other results, including 2nd Vejle-København (1 DivND, 2 Div2)
Note: assisted Hesler in 3 stagewins in NL Tour + Valparaiso SC,

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Post  Don Hamstre Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:02 am

As always, the level here is incredibly high. I think both Roesler and Zwol are better than Hadaway though. Could you put up their full stats so I can compare better?

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Post  Silenzio Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:56 am

Opininons here?

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Post  Silenzio Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:17 pm

Open for debate:

Nominated

Name: Fabio Borges
Team: Team AEK
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 1720
Points inside Category: 1560 (91%)
3 wins (all Div 1)
9 other results, including 2nd Vuelta Castillos SC (6 Div1, 3 Div1.1)

Name: Douglas Brasil
Team: Time Indaiatuba
OCM Tour Rank: 4th
OCM Tour Points: 1490
Points inside Category: 1390 (93%)
10 wins, including Kangaroo GC (1 Div 1, 1 Div 2.1, 8 Div3)
5 other results, including 2nd Grasse-Toulon, 5th Heslinki GP Mini, 7th Lappi Sea GP (4 Div2, 1 Div3)

Name: Joop Temen
Team: NJ Procyling
OCM Tour Rank: 11th
OCM Tour Points: 1090
Points inside Category: 1000 (91%)
3 wins, including Germany Tour SC (all Div1)
5 other results, including 2nd Milano-Torino, 5th place Norwich-London (all Div1)
Note: assisted Soria in his win of Copa Salsa de Cali


Vote 1/2

Name: Xalbador Varela
Team: Zalom
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 1345
Points inside Category: 1155 (86%)
3 wins, including Grasse-Toulon and Mollerup Memorial (1 Div1.2, 1 Div2)
5 other results (2 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 1 Div3)

Vote 2/2

Name: Kerry Hadaway
Team: team futerko
OCM Tour Rank: 60th
OCM Tour Points: 725
Points inside Category: 725 (100%)
5 wins, including Volta ao Porto SC (all Div2)
3 other results, including 2nd Vejle-København (1 DivND, 2 Div2)
Note: assisted Hesler in 3 stagewins in NL Tour + Valparaiso SC,

Out:

Elias Roesner (6 wins, 1020 points, but nothing really prestigious)
Alfred Zwolinski (NL Tour, 970 points, but only 1 time winning in roadrace)
Hermann Normann (won Vejle, but lacks enough points/wins)
Arnoldo Fava (6 wins, won Norway SC and a lot of stages there, but compared to Douglas clearly less in the rest of the season)

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Post  Don Hamstre Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:27 pm

Points inside category count for the following:

- normal races or tour stages where SP is the same or bigger as all skills (except FR and TQ), and SP+FR+TQ is bigger and the same as 1.5x CL+DH+HL
- Copa Salsa, Nederlandse, Sicilia, or Kangaroo GC Results


The format for this category:

Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category: (Percentage between brackets)
wins, including  mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)

Example:

Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
Points inside Category: 700 (100%)
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)

Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe lol!

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