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Re: Best Sprinter
Final result after voting:
Name: Douglas Brasil
Team: Time Indaiatuba
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 1605
Points inside Category: 1515 (95%)
8 wins (1 Div1, 1 Div1.2, 4 Div2, 1 Div2.1, 1Div3), including Mito-Tokyo (Div2)
7 other results (1 Div1.1, 3 Div2, 2 Div3, 1 ND), including 4th in Vejle-København (ND), and 2nd in Vuelta a Valparaíso SC, 2nd in Grasse-Toulon, and 4th in Helsinki GP Mini (all Div2)
Name: Elias Roesner
Team: English Sprinting Team
OCM Tour Rank: 12th
OCM Tour Points: 1130
Points inside Category: 980 (87%)
3 wins (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2)
7 other results (1 Div1, 3 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 1 WTA), including 2nd in Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1), 5th in Grasse-Toulon (Div2) and 7th in Norwich-London (Div1)
Name: Rajnay Bela
Team: Silenzio
OCM Tour Rank: 23rd
OCM Tour Points: 950
Points inside Category: 750 (79%)
3 wins inside Category (1 Div1, 2 Div1.1), including Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1)
4 other results inside Category (1 Div1, 3 Div1.1), including 2nd in Germany Tour SC (Div1)
Name: Xalbador Varela
Team: Zalom
OCM Tour Rank: 3rd
OCM Tour Points: 1371
Points inside Category: 1138 (83%)
6 wins (1 Div1, 5 Div2), including Volta ao Porto SC (Div2)
7 other results (5 Div1, 1 ND, 1 WTA), including 2nd in Vuelta de los Castillos SC and 4th in Helsinki GP (both Div1), and 3rd in Vejle-København (ND)
Name: Douglas Brasil
Team: Time Indaiatuba
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 1605
Points inside Category: 1515 (95%)
8 wins (1 Div1, 1 Div1.2, 4 Div2, 1 Div2.1, 1Div3), including Mito-Tokyo (Div2)
7 other results (1 Div1.1, 3 Div2, 2 Div3, 1 ND), including 4th in Vejle-København (ND), and 2nd in Vuelta a Valparaíso SC, 2nd in Grasse-Toulon, and 4th in Helsinki GP Mini (all Div2)
Name: Elias Roesner
Team: English Sprinting Team
OCM Tour Rank: 12th
OCM Tour Points: 1130
Points inside Category: 980 (87%)
3 wins (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2)
7 other results (1 Div1, 3 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 1 WTA), including 2nd in Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1), 5th in Grasse-Toulon (Div2) and 7th in Norwich-London (Div1)
Name: Rajnay Bela
Team: Silenzio
OCM Tour Rank: 23rd
OCM Tour Points: 950
Points inside Category: 750 (79%)
3 wins inside Category (1 Div1, 2 Div1.1), including Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1)
4 other results inside Category (1 Div1, 3 Div1.1), including 2nd in Germany Tour SC (Div1)
Name: Xalbador Varela
Team: Zalom
OCM Tour Rank: 3rd
OCM Tour Points: 1371
Points inside Category: 1138 (83%)
6 wins (1 Div1, 5 Div2), including Volta ao Porto SC (Div2)
7 other results (5 Div1, 1 ND, 1 WTA), including 2nd in Vuelta de los Castillos SC and 4th in Helsinki GP (both Div1), and 3rd in Vejle-København (ND)
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Re: Best Sprinter
What is the the final list of nominees and to vote on riders? I am a bit lost here.
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Re: Best Sprinter
Silenzio wrote:Looks good.
Tip Track not counting for same reason as Nederlandse Prologue:
- normal races or tour stages where SP is the same or bigger as all skills (except FR and TQ), and SP+FR+TQ is bigger and the same as 1.5x CL+DH+HL
Apparently "they" mean roadrace with "normal race"
Also WT-races don't count. That must be the difference with Varela.
I see. That made it ambiguous for me, I suspected but wasn't sure. I need to rewrite those.
On the other hand I find weird WT results not counting, but whatever, I can edit those also during this morning.
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Re: Best Sprinter
Looks good.
Tip Track not counting for same reason as Nederlandse Prologue:
- normal races or tour stages where SP is the same or bigger as all skills (except FR and TQ), and SP+FR+TQ is bigger and the same as 1.5x CL+DH+HL
Apparently "they" mean roadrace with "normal race"
Also WT-races don't count. That must be the difference with Varela.
Tip Track not counting for same reason as Nederlandse Prologue:
- normal races or tour stages where SP is the same or bigger as all skills (except FR and TQ), and SP+FR+TQ is bigger and the same as 1.5x CL+DH+HL
Apparently "they" mean roadrace with "normal race"
Also WT-races don't count. That must be the difference with Varela.
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Re: Best Sprinter
So I caused quite the havoc with my lack of practise on evaluating which stages are within category and which ones are not ... please review carefully.
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Re: Best Sprinter
Silenzio wrote:Maybe Wouter Driessen (3 wins, 7 other results, 976 points) also deserves mention? YC Nederlandse
Seems legit, will do.
Name: Wouter Driessen
Team: DeRodeLantaarn
OCM Tour Rank: 14th
OCM Tour Points: 936
Points inside Category: 876 (74%)
3 wins inside category (1 Div1, 2 Div1.1), including Nederlandse Tour YC (Div1.1)
7 other results inside category (2 Div1, 2 Div1.1, 3 Div2), including 2nd at Copa Salsa de Cali YC (Div1), 4th at Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1), and 2nd at Helsinki GP Mini and 8th at Grasse - Toulon (both Div2)
Like him much better than Troels Smidt
points inside category pending whether results from nederlandse stage 1 should count or not
Silenzio wrote:Varela has 5 wins in my count and only 6 other results.
Bela 3 wins, 4 other results
Brasil 8 wins, 7 other results
Now I see I had some misunderstanding in the rules of what constitutes to be within the category. I recounted all results, changes in red.
Last edited by toblerone on Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:54 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Best Sprinter
Holwerda wrote:Did you consider Jorge Couto?
No, I didn't. Part of it because I didn't him seal-clubbing on his way up, part of it because a massive lot of his points seem to come from FR. Still, in case you guys prefer to have him on the ballot:
Name: Jorge Couto
Team: Cycling team FPS
OCM Tour Rank: 40th
OCM Tour Points: 793
Points inside Category: 435 (55%)
6 wins inside category (3 Div3, 3 Div7), including Perm Tour SC (Div3) and Tour of the Sanreizan SC (Div7)
2 other results inside category (2 Div2), including 7th at Grasse-Toulon
corrected points inside category, results and % (added Okavango)
Last edited by toblerone on Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:42 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Best Sprinter
Seems good for me
(Trinta and Trzciński not necessary)
(Trinta and Trzciński not necessary)
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Re: Best Sprinter
Maybe Wouter Driessen (3 wins, 7 other results, 976 points) also deserves mention? YC Nederlandse
Varela has 5 wins in my count and only 6 other results.
Bela 3 wins, 4 other results
Brasil 8 wins, 7 other results
Varela has 5 wins in my count and only 6 other results.
Bela 3 wins, 4 other results
Brasil 8 wins, 7 other results
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Re: Best Sprinter
Did you consider Jorge Couto?
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Re: Best Sprinter
Name: Douglas Brasil
Team: Time Indaiatuba
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 1605
Points inside Category: 1515 (95%)
8 wins (1 Div1, 1 Div1.2, 4 Div2, 1 Div2.1, 1Div3), including Mito-Tokyo (Div2)
7 other results (1 Div1.1, 3 Div2, 2 Div3, 1 ND), including 4th in Vejle-København (ND), and 2nd in Vuelta a Valparaíso SC, 2nd in Grasse-Toulon, and 4th in Helsinki GP Mini (all Div2)
(removed result for El Tabo - Cuncumen, which barely misses the 1.5x criteria)
Name: Xalbador Varela
Team: Zalom
OCM Tour Rank: 3rd
OCM Tour Points: 1371
Points inside Category: 1138 (83%)
6 wins (1 Div1, 5 Div2), including Volta ao Porto SC (Div2)
7 other results (5 Div1, 1 ND, 1 WTA), including 2nd in Vuelta de los Castillos SC and 4th in Helsinki GP (both Div1), and 3rd in Vejle-København (ND)
The Tip Track should be within the criteria, right?
SP = 6, equal or higher than any skill that's not FR or TQ -> met
SP + FR + TQ = 17, CL + DH + HL = 7 x 1.5 = 10.5 -> met
temporarily not removing it, I imagine this is the race that doesn't match, but can't see why
(removed result for GT Stage 9, which barely misses the 1.5x criteria)
I fail to see which other of his results is not in the category, to match with Silenzio assessment.
Name: Rajnay Bela
Team: Silenzio
OCM Tour Rank: 23rd
OCM Tour Points: 950
Points inside Category: 750 (79%)
3 wins inside Category (1 Div1, 2 Div1.1), including Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1)
4 other results inside Category (1 Div1, 3 Div1.1), including 2nd in Germany Tour SC (Div1)
(added Hengelo - Eindhoven)
For consideration for 4th slot:
Name: Elias Roesner
Team: English Sprinting Team
OCM Tour Rank: 12th
OCM Tour Points: 1130
Points inside Category: 980 (87%)
3 wins (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2)
7 other results (1 Div1, 3 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 1 WTA), including 2nd in Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1), 5th in Grasse-Toulon (Div2) and 7th in Norwich-London (Div1)
(he is okay)
Name: Fragoso Trinta
Team: team dustin
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 1300
Points inside Category: 970 (75%)
1 win (1 Div1)
7 other results inside Category (6 Div1, 1 Div1.1), including 3rd in Germany Tour SC and 5th in Copa Salsa de Cali (both Div1)
(he is okay)
Name: Tristan Trzciński
Team: team dustin
OCM Tour Rank: 7th
OCM Tour Points: 1270
Points inside Category: 950 (75%)
2 wins (2 Div1)
4 other results inside Category (4 Div1), including 3rd in Vuelta de los Castillos SC and 6th in Norwich-London (both Div1)
(he is okay)
This is a bit on the fence, but I guess I'd rather include it than not, we can discard later.
Name: Troels Smidt
Team: Men of Steel
OCM Tour Rank: 15th
OCM Tour Points: 1075
Points inside Category: 1075 (100%)
1 win (1 Div1.1)
3 other results (1 Div1.2, 2 Div2), including 5th in Helsinki GP Mini (Div2)
(he is okay)
Team: Time Indaiatuba
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 1605
Points inside Category: 1515 (95%)
8 wins (1 Div1, 1 Div1.2, 4 Div2, 1 Div2.1, 1Div3), including Mito-Tokyo (Div2)
7 other results (1 Div1.1, 3 Div2, 2 Div3, 1 ND), including 4th in Vejle-København (ND), and 2nd in Vuelta a Valparaíso SC, 2nd in Grasse-Toulon, and 4th in Helsinki GP Mini (all Div2)
(removed result for El Tabo - Cuncumen, which barely misses the 1.5x criteria)
Name: Xalbador Varela
Team: Zalom
OCM Tour Rank: 3rd
OCM Tour Points: 1371
Points inside Category: 1138 (83%)
6 wins (1 Div1, 5 Div2), including Volta ao Porto SC (Div2)
7 other results (5 Div1, 1 ND, 1 WTA), including 2nd in Vuelta de los Castillos SC and 4th in Helsinki GP (both Div1), and 3rd in Vejle-København (ND)
The Tip Track should be within the criteria, right?
SP = 6, equal or higher than any skill that's not FR or TQ -> met
SP + FR + TQ = 17, CL + DH + HL = 7 x 1.5 = 10.5 -> met
temporarily not removing it, I imagine this is the race that doesn't match, but can't see why
(removed result for GT Stage 9, which barely misses the 1.5x criteria)
I fail to see which other of his results is not in the category, to match with Silenzio assessment.
Name: Rajnay Bela
Team: Silenzio
OCM Tour Rank: 23rd
OCM Tour Points: 950
Points inside Category: 750 (79%)
3 wins inside Category (1 Div1, 2 Div1.1), including Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1)
4 other results inside Category (1 Div1, 3 Div1.1), including 2nd in Germany Tour SC (Div1)
(added Hengelo - Eindhoven)
For consideration for 4th slot:
Name: Elias Roesner
Team: English Sprinting Team
OCM Tour Rank: 12th
OCM Tour Points: 1130
Points inside Category: 980 (87%)
3 wins (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2)
7 other results (1 Div1, 3 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 1 WTA), including 2nd in Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1), 5th in Grasse-Toulon (Div2) and 7th in Norwich-London (Div1)
(he is okay)
Name: Fragoso Trinta
Team: team dustin
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 1300
Points inside Category: 970 (75%)
1 win (1 Div1)
7 other results inside Category (6 Div1, 1 Div1.1), including 3rd in Germany Tour SC and 5th in Copa Salsa de Cali (both Div1)
(he is okay)
Name: Tristan Trzciński
Team: team dustin
OCM Tour Rank: 7th
OCM Tour Points: 1270
Points inside Category: 950 (75%)
2 wins (2 Div1)
4 other results inside Category (4 Div1), including 3rd in Vuelta de los Castillos SC and 6th in Norwich-London (both Div1)
(he is okay)
This is a bit on the fence, but I guess I'd rather include it than not, we can discard later.
Name: Troels Smidt
Team: Men of Steel
OCM Tour Rank: 15th
OCM Tour Points: 1075
Points inside Category: 1075 (100%)
1 win (1 Div1.1)
3 other results (1 Div1.2, 2 Div2), including 5th in Helsinki GP Mini (Div2)
(he is okay)
Last edited by toblerone on Mon Aug 08, 2022 4:33 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Best Sprinter
Points inside category count for the following:
- normal races or tour stages where SP is the same or bigger as all skills (except FR and TQ), and SP+FR+TQ is bigger and the same as 1.5x CL+DH+HL
- Copa Salsa, Nederlandse, Sicilia, Jawlat Oman, Four Rivers, Smaland, or Kangaroo GC Results
The format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category: (Percentage between brackets)
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
Points inside Category: 700 (100%)
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
- normal races or tour stages where SP is the same or bigger as all skills (except FR and TQ), and SP+FR+TQ is bigger and the same as 1.5x CL+DH+HL
- Copa Salsa, Nederlandse, Sicilia, Jawlat Oman, Four Rivers, Smaland, or Kangaroo GC Results
The format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category: (Percentage between brackets)
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
Points inside Category: 700 (100%)
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
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