Best Rider
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Re: Best Rider
@Twan : Jean Pascal Traoré is a sprinter, and as i had to pick only one and Miles is in, and Darian is also half sprinter, it was really painfull but i had not to take him.
Jepsen and Tobias were close for me, and GC or classic results were more important than 5 wins in div 1. But i admitt both could have been choosen.
@Don : glad we agree ^^
Jepsen and Tobias were close for me, and GC or classic results were more important than 5 wins in div 1. But i admitt both could have been choosen.
@Don : glad we agree ^^
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Re: Best Rider
I agree with these nominations, Dorinsky is of course not the best Sprinter, but he has done much more than just sprinting, which does count here but not in that category. And Tobias has the most eye-catching win out of the Hillers. Will probably finish last in the voting, but is the best hilling candidate for this category I'd say.
Troare has bloated stats because of Nederlandse. Luckily this will be the last season that happens, but he's definitely not exception-worthy to me.
Troare has bloated stats because of Nederlandse. Luckily this will be the last season that happens, but he's definitely not exception-worthy to me.
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Re: Best Rider
Miles, Jerardo, Trevor and Jeroen seem like the winners in their categories, so that makes sense.
Darian and Tobias might not be nominated, so perhaps there are better options for them?
Jean Pascal Traoré will probably be voted best young rider and is also nominated in the best sprinter category, besides ending up on the 3rd spot in the end of season points ranking. Perhaps he qualifies as the exception to the rule Don described in his opening post?
For the Hillers, there is no clear favourite among the nominees, I guess. Perhaps Dean Jepsen rather than Tobias...?
No climber seems to make sense as well.
Darian and Tobias might not be nominated, so perhaps there are better options for them?
Jean Pascal Traoré will probably be voted best young rider and is also nominated in the best sprinter category, besides ending up on the 3rd spot in the end of season points ranking. Perhaps he qualifies as the exception to the rule Don described in his opening post?
For the Hillers, there is no clear favourite among the nominees, I guess. Perhaps Dean Jepsen rather than Tobias...?
No climber seems to make sense as well.
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Re: Best Rider
Always a tough one this one!
Side note: Darian got 2 Div 2, 5 Div 3 for this other results
Side note: Darian got 2 Div 2, 5 Div 3 for this other results
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Was incredibly hard to select only 6 riders, and i tried to pick multiple kind of riders, but honestly it could have been 6 sprinters or cobblers and none others.
If you want to discuss about the names i decided not to select, feel free to do of course, but to make things clear, i tried to balanced points, victories and results, and important wins like classics or jerseys.
Name: Miles Illingworth
Team: Skogs riders
OCM Tour Rank: 1st
OCM Tour Points: 1671
5 wins, including Mito-Tokyo (1 in div 1.1, and 4 in div 2)
5 other results, including (1 in div 1.1, and 4 in div 2)
Name: Trevor Roe
Team: Lastplace1414
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 1380
6 wins (2 in div 2, 1 in div 2.1 and 3 in div 3)
5 other results (4 in div 2 and 1 in div 2.1)
Name: Jerardo Solano
Team: MOVISTAR KELME TEAM
OCM Tour Rank: 9th
OCM Tour Points: 1250
3 wins, including Antwerpen-Huy and Roubaix Classic (all in div 1)
4 other results, including 6th in TvA GC and 3rd in Astana GP (all in div 1)
Name: Jeroen Hoste
Team: Andeby
OCM Tour Rank: 31st
OCM Tour Points: 920
2 wins, including WC ITT (1 in div 1 and 1 in div 2)
5 other results (2 in div 1, 1 in div 1.1 and 2 in div 2)
Name: Darian Dorinsky
Team: English Sprinting Team
OCM Tour Rank: 47th
OCM Tour Points: 800
8 wins, including Haute-Normandie GC and YC, and Volta ao Porto SC (all in div 2)
7 other results, including 7th GC and 2nd YC in Volta da Lagoa dos Patos (2 in div 2 and 5 in div 3)
Name: Tobias Grande
Team: iheb pro team
OCM Tour Rank: 78th
OCM Tour Points: 690
4 wins, including Edmonton Red deer Tour (1 in div 3, 3 in div 4)
4 other results, including 2nd in VCK Classic (3 in div 3 and 1 in div 4)
If you want to discuss about the names i decided not to select, feel free to do of course, but to make things clear, i tried to balanced points, victories and results, and important wins like classics or jerseys.
Name: Miles Illingworth
Team: Skogs riders
OCM Tour Rank: 1st
OCM Tour Points: 1671
5 wins, including Mito-Tokyo (1 in div 1.1, and 4 in div 2)
5 other results, including (1 in div 1.1, and 4 in div 2)
Name: Trevor Roe
Team: Lastplace1414
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 1380
6 wins (2 in div 2, 1 in div 2.1 and 3 in div 3)
5 other results (4 in div 2 and 1 in div 2.1)
Name: Jerardo Solano
Team: MOVISTAR KELME TEAM
OCM Tour Rank: 9th
OCM Tour Points: 1250
3 wins, including Antwerpen-Huy and Roubaix Classic (all in div 1)
4 other results, including 6th in TvA GC and 3rd in Astana GP (all in div 1)
Name: Jeroen Hoste
Team: Andeby
OCM Tour Rank: 31st
OCM Tour Points: 920
2 wins, including WC ITT (1 in div 1 and 1 in div 2)
5 other results (2 in div 1, 1 in div 1.1 and 2 in div 2)
Name: Darian Dorinsky
Team: English Sprinting Team
OCM Tour Rank: 47th
OCM Tour Points: 800
8 wins, including Haute-Normandie GC and YC, and Volta ao Porto SC (all in div 2)
7 other results, including 7th GC and 2nd YC in Volta da Lagoa dos Patos (2 in div 2 and 5 in div 3)
Name: Tobias Grande
Team: iheb pro team
OCM Tour Rank: 78th
OCM Tour Points: 690
4 wins, including Edmonton Red deer Tour (1 in div 3, 3 in div 4)
4 other results, including 2nd in VCK Classic (3 in div 3 and 1 in div 4)
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Re: Best Rider
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Dorian Dorinsky
Dorian Dorinsky
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Best Rider
- No more than 2 riders from same specialty (except for exceptional performances)
- At least 1 rider from CL, SP, TT, CB, HL specialties (except for exceptional under performance of a specialty)
After last season showed this category was hard to do in the new format, we will just use the old rules for this one only, and work with 5-6 nominees and no committee vote on them.
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
- At least 1 rider from CL, SP, TT, CB, HL specialties (except for exceptional under performance of a specialty)
After last season showed this category was hard to do in the new format, we will just use the old rules for this one only, and work with 5-6 nominees and no committee vote on them.
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
Don Hamstre- Admin
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