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Re: Best Rider
Sounds good indeed!
My vote goes to Rolf
My vote goes to Rolf
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Three sprinters at the top. Wow. It is just the Best Sprinter award then
Yes, let's vote on Rolf and van Wontergem here. We could let Rolf start with a headstart of 1 given the extra vote from the form.
Yes, let's vote on Rolf and van Wontergem here. We could let Rolf start with a headstart of 1 given the extra vote from the form.
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The results of the form:
Katagiri Mitsunori 20
Miles Illingworth 18
Hadley Childers 18
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Sherard Rolf 10
Roland van Wontergem 9
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Kristiaan de Mayer 8
Fillip Thorn 7
Ronny Hellgren 7
Santino Cacace 6
Ton Minh Tran 6
Jeroen Hoste 3
We could put both Rolf and van Wontergem in, we could also vote on them here.
Katagiri Mitsunori 20
Miles Illingworth 18
Hadley Childers 18
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Sherard Rolf 10
Roland van Wontergem 9
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Kristiaan de Mayer 8
Fillip Thorn 7
Ronny Hellgren 7
Santino Cacace 6
Ton Minh Tran 6
Jeroen Hoste 3
We could put both Rolf and van Wontergem in, we could also vote on them here.
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That's 11, you liar!
I have not spotted any obvious mistakes, the form will be up later today.
I have not spotted any obvious mistakes, the form will be up later today.
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Name: Fillip Thorn
Team: DZWF
OCM Tour Rank: 34
OCM Tour Points: 910
2 wins, including Alpe d`Huez Classic (Div1)
3 other results, including 2nd in Critérium La Provence and 2nd in Zürich-Bern-Zürich (Div1)
Name: Hadley Childers
Team: Time Indaiatuba
OCM Tour Rank: 2
OCM Tour Points: 1680
5 wins (3 Div1.1, 1 Div2, 1 Div3, including Nederlandse Tour (Diiv1.1)
9 other results (1 Div1, 4 Div1.1, 1 Div2, 3 Div3), including 2nd Perm Tour SC (Div3) and 2nd Rotterdam Classic (Div3)
Name: Jeroen Hoste
Team: mutants madrid
OCM Tour Rank: 28
OCM Tour Points: 970
2 wins (1 Div1, 1 Div1.1)
3 other results (2 Div1, 1 Div1.1)
Name: Katagiri Mitsunori
Team: Team AEK
OCM Tour Rank: 7
OCM Tour Points: 1350
8 wins (5 Div1, 3 Div1.1), including Germany Tour SC (Div1)
3 other results (1 Div1, 2 Div1.1), including 2nd Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1)
Name: Kristiaan De Mayer
Team: Jubalon ProCycling
OCM Tour Rank: 9
OCM Tour Points: 1280
5 wins (Div1)
4 other results (Div1)
Name: Miles Illingworth
Team: Skogs riders
OCM Tour Rank: 1
OCM Tour Points: 1711
5 wins (1 Div1, 4 Div2)
5 other results (2 Div1, 2 Div1.2, 1 Div2), including 6th in Copa Salsa de Cali (Div1)
Name: Roland Van Wontergem
Team: Alpine
OCM Tour Rank: 67
OCM Tour Points: 730
2 wins (Div1), including Astana GP and Antwerpen - Huy
2 other results (Div1), including 6th in Tweedaagse van Antwerpen
Name: Ronny Hellgren
Team: PEKAC B
OCM Tour Rank: 31
OCM Tour Points: 950
7 wins (1 Div3, 3 Div4, 3 Div6), including Tour of Hawaii (Div3), Edmonton Red Deer Tour (Div4) and Cesko-Slovensky Pohar (Div6)
4 other results (2 Div1, 1 Div4, 1 Div6)
Name: Santino Cacace
Team: Nefal
OCM Tour Rank: 4
OCM Tour Points: 1450
4 wins (Div1)
7 other results (Div1), including 3rd in Critérium La Provence and 5th in Vuelta de los Castillos
Name: Sherard Rolf
Team: Navarone Cycling Team
OCM Tour Rank: 6
OCM Tour Points: 1380
3 wins (Div1), including Tweedaagse van Antwerpen
8 other results (Div1), including 6th in Antwerpen - Huy
Name: Tôn Minh Tran
Team: Fissa
OCM Tour Rank: 5
OCM Tour Points: 1400
4 wins (Div1)
3 other results (Div1), including 7th in Bergen Rundtur
Team: DZWF
OCM Tour Rank: 34
OCM Tour Points: 910
2 wins, including Alpe d`Huez Classic (Div1)
3 other results, including 2nd in Critérium La Provence and 2nd in Zürich-Bern-Zürich (Div1)
Name: Hadley Childers
Team: Time Indaiatuba
OCM Tour Rank: 2
OCM Tour Points: 1680
5 wins (3 Div1.1, 1 Div2, 1 Div3, including Nederlandse Tour (Diiv1.1)
9 other results (1 Div1, 4 Div1.1, 1 Div2, 3 Div3), including 2nd Perm Tour SC (Div3) and 2nd Rotterdam Classic (Div3)
Name: Jeroen Hoste
Team: mutants madrid
OCM Tour Rank: 28
OCM Tour Points: 970
2 wins (1 Div1, 1 Div1.1)
3 other results (2 Div1, 1 Div1.1)
Name: Katagiri Mitsunori
Team: Team AEK
OCM Tour Rank: 7
OCM Tour Points: 1350
8 wins (5 Div1, 3 Div1.1), including Germany Tour SC (Div1)
3 other results (1 Div1, 2 Div1.1), including 2nd Nederlandse Tour (Div1.1)
Name: Kristiaan De Mayer
Team: Jubalon ProCycling
OCM Tour Rank: 9
OCM Tour Points: 1280
5 wins (Div1)
4 other results (Div1)
Name: Miles Illingworth
Team: Skogs riders
OCM Tour Rank: 1
OCM Tour Points: 1711
5 wins (1 Div1, 4 Div2)
5 other results (2 Div1, 2 Div1.2, 1 Div2), including 6th in Copa Salsa de Cali (Div1)
Name: Roland Van Wontergem
Team: Alpine
OCM Tour Rank: 67
OCM Tour Points: 730
2 wins (Div1), including Astana GP and Antwerpen - Huy
2 other results (Div1), including 6th in Tweedaagse van Antwerpen
Name: Ronny Hellgren
Team: PEKAC B
OCM Tour Rank: 31
OCM Tour Points: 950
7 wins (1 Div3, 3 Div4, 3 Div6), including Tour of Hawaii (Div3), Edmonton Red Deer Tour (Div4) and Cesko-Slovensky Pohar (Div6)
4 other results (2 Div1, 1 Div4, 1 Div6)
Name: Santino Cacace
Team: Nefal
OCM Tour Rank: 4
OCM Tour Points: 1450
4 wins (Div1)
7 other results (Div1), including 3rd in Critérium La Provence and 5th in Vuelta de los Castillos
Name: Sherard Rolf
Team: Navarone Cycling Team
OCM Tour Rank: 6
OCM Tour Points: 1380
3 wins (Div1), including Tweedaagse van Antwerpen
8 other results (Div1), including 6th in Antwerpen - Huy
Name: Tôn Minh Tran
Team: Fissa
OCM Tour Rank: 5
OCM Tour Points: 1400
4 wins (Div1)
3 other results (Div1), including 7th in Bergen Rundtur
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I do have time for that, so no worries.
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Yes off course. I will do 10 of them. I hope someone has the time to check them all
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Do you have time to put all those guys into the right format? Because that would save me a lot.
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Yes, sounds good! I think people will understand that for this category something special is in place.
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Hmm, I could make a post on the forum about it and add a small form there. Because on the main form it would definitely take up too much room and make the results very weird compared to other categories. Does that sound good?
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Still an impossible decision. for some specialties I have no clue who would be the best to put in here.
Perhaps to make a big exception we include something like 10 nominees and let the community decide who is best. I am afraid otherwise there will be lots of discussion.
Perhaps to make a big exception we include something like 10 nominees and let the community decide who is best. I am afraid otherwise there will be lots of discussion.
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This is incredibly tough indeed. I honestly think that we might make an exception out of Best Rider, because it almost feels unfair given the diversity in rider specialties to just nominate 4 in the end. How about we make it 4 certain, and 5 nominees in total for this one? That still leaves an impossible decision, but makes it a little less impossible.
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You gotta help me out here fellow managers, I am struggling a bit.
I think I would go for:
Hadley Childers: rank 2, 5 wins (NL Tour), 10 other results (2nd Perm SC, 2nd Rotterdam Classic),
Santino Cacace: rank 4, 4 wins in Top Division, 7 other results (3rd Criterium La Provence, 5th Vuelta de los Castillos)
Sherard Rolf: rank 6, 3 wins (TvA), 8 other results (6th Antwerpen - Huy)
But I could go for these without problems:
Miles Illingworth: rank 1, 5 wins, 5 other results (6th Copa Salsa di Cali)
Ronny Hellgren: rank 31, 7 wins (Tour of Hawaii, Edmonton Red Deer Tour, Cesko-Slovensky Pohar), 4 other results
Roland Van Wontergem: rank 67, 2 wins (Astana GP, Antwerpen - Huy), 2 other results (6th TvA)
Or
Tôn Minh Tran: rank 5, 4 wins, 5 other results (7th Bergen Rundtur)
Fillip Thorn: rank 34, 2 wins (Alpe d'Huez), 3 other results (2nd Criterium La Provence, 2nd Zurich - Bern - Zurich)
Katagiri Mitsunori: rank 7, 8 wins (Germany Tour SC), 3 other results (2nd Nederlandse Tour)
I think I would go for:
Hadley Childers: rank 2, 5 wins (NL Tour), 10 other results (2nd Perm SC, 2nd Rotterdam Classic),
Santino Cacace: rank 4, 4 wins in Top Division, 7 other results (3rd Criterium La Provence, 5th Vuelta de los Castillos)
Sherard Rolf: rank 6, 3 wins (TvA), 8 other results (6th Antwerpen - Huy)
But I could go for these without problems:
Miles Illingworth: rank 1, 5 wins, 5 other results (6th Copa Salsa di Cali)
Ronny Hellgren: rank 31, 7 wins (Tour of Hawaii, Edmonton Red Deer Tour, Cesko-Slovensky Pohar), 4 other results
Roland Van Wontergem: rank 67, 2 wins (Astana GP, Antwerpen - Huy), 2 other results (6th TvA)
Or
Tôn Minh Tran: rank 5, 4 wins, 5 other results (7th Bergen Rundtur)
Fillip Thorn: rank 34, 2 wins (Alpe d'Huez), 3 other results (2nd Criterium La Provence, 2nd Zurich - Bern - Zurich)
Katagiri Mitsunori: rank 7, 8 wins (Germany Tour SC), 3 other results (2nd Nederlandse Tour)
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True, I think I will let go the one rider per specialty rule.
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It does technically fit, but that would not leave room for any tour riders or others that don't perfectly fit the specialties.
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It still fits doesn't it? 3+2 nominees is 5, so all specialties can be presented, two of them will only be possible nominees.
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Yeah, the specialty requirements are also not really fitting any more with the lower amount of nominees. Should we remove TT'ers from them, or just get rid of the requirements all together?
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I will wait with the nominees until the separate specialty nominees are known. This seems like a tough category this season.
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Best Rider
- No more than 2 riders from same specialty (except for exceptional performances)
- At least 1 rider from CL, SP, TT, CB, HL specialties (except for exceptional under performance of a specialty)
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
- At least 1 rider from CL, SP, TT, CB, HL specialties (except for exceptional under performance of a specialty)
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 700
2 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (both Div3)
5 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
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