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Post  Don Hamstre Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:40 pm

Gale Reason 12
Miron Tredyakovsky 9
Tarjei Thorvaldsen 9
Márcio Fialho 8
Niguel Verne 7
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Aureli Delon 5
Rolf Snow 5
Nicolaus Schwarz 4
Andrea Giannoni 4
Theofanis Anastasakis 3
Jean-Pierre Van Bockorst 2
Blazej Urbanek 0

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Post  Don Hamstre Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:40 pm

Márcio Fialho YES
Theofanis Anastasakis NO
Blazej Urbanek NO
Aureli Delon MAYBE
Miron Tredyakovsky YES
Nicolaus Schwarz NO
Rolf Snow NO
Andrea Giannoni MAYBE
Gale Reason YES
Jean-Pierre Van Bockorst NO
Niguel Verne MAYBE
Tarjei Thorvaldsen YES

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Post  TeamQuetzal Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:27 am

Márcio Fialho - YES
Theofanis Anastasakis - YES
Blazej Urbanek - NO
Aureli Delon - MAYBE
Miron Tredyakovsky - YES
Nicolaus Schwarz - MAYBE
Rolf Snow - MAYBE
Andrea Giannoni - MAYBE
Gale Reason - YES
Jean-Pierre Van Bockorst - NO
Niguel Verne - MAYBE
Tarjei Thorvaldsen – NO
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Post  PJMcycles Thu May 31, 2018 10:55 am

Márcio Fialho - MAYBE
Theofanis Anastasakis - NO
Blazej Urbanek - NO
Aureli Delon - MAYBE
Miron Tredyakovsky - YES
Nicolaus Schwarz - MAYBE
Rolf Snow - MAYBE
Andrea Giannoni - MAYBE
Gale Reason - YES
Jean-Pierre Van Bockorst - MAYBE
Niguel Verne - MAYBE
Tarjei Thorvaldsen – YES

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Post  DeRodeLantaarn Wed May 30, 2018 11:12 pm

Márcio Fialho - MAYBE
Theofanis Anastasakis - NO
Blazej Urbanek - NO
Aureli Delon - MAYBE
Miron Tredyakovsky - MAYBE
Nicolaus Schwarz - MAYBE
Rolf Snow - MAYBE
Andrea Giannoni - NO
Gale Reason - YES
Jean-Pierre Van Bockorst - NO
Niguel Verne - MAYBE
Tarjei Thorvaldsen - YES

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Post  Holwerda Wed May 30, 2018 9:09 pm

Fialho and Thorvaldsen both winning Roubaix? I don't think that is possible. I checked: Thorvaldsen won it

Márcio Fialho - No (did not win Roubaix)
Theofanis Anastasakis - MAYBE
Blazej Urbanek - NO
Aureli Delon - NO
Miron Tredyakovsky - MAYBE
Nicolaus Schwarz - NO
Rolf Snow - MAYBE
Andrea Giannoni - MAYBE
Gale Reason - YES
Jean-Pierre Van Bockorst - MAYBE
Niguel Verne - YES
Tarjei Thorvaldsen - YES

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Post  Llotyhy Wed May 30, 2018 9:36 am

Márcio Fialho - YES
Theofanis Anastasakis - NO
Blazej Urbanek - NO
Aureli Delon - MAYBE
Miron Tredyakovsky - MAYBE
Nicolaus Schwarz - MAYBE
Rolf Snow - MAYBE
Andrea Giannoni - NO
Gale Reason - YES
Jean-Pierre Van Bockorst - NO
Niguel Verne - MAYBE
Tarjei Thorvaldsen - MAYBE

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Post  Don Hamstre Sat May 26, 2018 7:53 pm

All looks good to me!

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Post  Don Hamstre Sat May 26, 2018 1:37 pm

As promised, I'll give voting tips in every category. These will also be in the voting form.

Voting tips:

- Look at wins and results, not just to rankings. Decide what you find most important, riders that win, or riders that score constantly?
- Look at classic and tour wins and results, a top-5 in a classic is already a lot more difficult than winning most non-classic races
- Do not vote based on the fame of a rider. Only the results from season 44 matter for winning an award in this category.
- Take into account that while competition might be less strong in lower divisions, the amount of points you can possible score is as well. Decide for yourself what you find more important.

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Post  ROGERO Sat May 26, 2018 9:06 am

Here are the final 12 nominees;

Name: Márcio Fialho
Team: Comfius
OCM Tour Rank: 9th
OCM Tour Points: 1180
Points inside category: 1060 (89%)
2 wins (2 Div-1)
4 other results, including 4th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC and 2th Antwerpen - Huy (4 Div-1)

Name: Theofanis Anastasakis
Team: California Mist
OCM Tour Rank: 18th
OCM Tour Points: 1040
Points inside category: 910 (87%)
0 wins
5 other results, including 9th Haute-Normandie GC, 3th Antwerpen - Huy and 2th Minsk CBGP (2 Div-1, 1 Div-1.1, 2 Div-2)

Name: Błażej Urbanek
Team: Aesop
OCM Tour Rank: 21th
OCM Tour Points: 1020
Points inside category: 1020 (100%)
0 wins
6 other results, including 6th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC and 6th Antwerpen - Huy (3 Div-1, 1 Div-1.1, 2 Div-2)

Name: Aureli Delon
Team: Cremtec
OCM Tour Rank: 32th
OCM Tour Points: 918
Points inside category: 870 (95%)
1 win, (1 Div-2)
6 other results, including 2th Haute-Normandie GC, 8th Antwerpen - Huy, 3th Minsk CBGP and 5th Astana GP (3 Div-1, 3 Div-2)

Name: Miron Tredyakovsky
Team: NightmareChaos
OCM Tour Rank: 43th
OCM Tour Points: 880
Points inside category: 880 (100%)
1 win, including 1th Minsk CBGP (1 Div-2)
3 other results, (3 Div-2)

Name: Nicolaus Schwarz
Team: Biertje
OCM Tour Rank: 55th
OCM Tour Points: 790
Points inside category: 710 (90%)
2 wins (1 Div-1.1)
2 other results, including 5th Antwerpen - Huy (1 Div-1, 1 Div-2)

Name: Rolf Snow
Team: Amersfoort Cycling
OCM Tour Rank: 58th
OCM Tour Points: 770
Points inside category: 770 (100%)
2 wins (2 Div-2)
4 other results, including 2th Turnai - Turnai (4 Div-3)

Name: Andrea Giannoni
Team: de stamper
OCM Tour Rank: 59th
OCM Tour Points: 768
Points inside category: 640 (83%)
2 wins, including 1th Turnai - Turnai (2 Div-3)
1 other result (1 Div-3)

Name: Gale Reason
Team: Jonas Pro Cycling
OCM Tour Rank: 65th
OCM Tour Points: 750
Points inside category: 410 (54%)
2 wins, including 1th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC (2 Div-1)
2 other results, including 3th Roubaix Classic and 7th Antwerpen - Huy (2 Div-1)

Name: Jean-Pierre Van Bockorst
Team: MOVISTAR KELME TEAM
OCM Tour Rank: 67 th
OCM Tour Points: 740
Points inside category: 640 (86%)
0 wins
3 other results, including 2th Astana GP, 7th Roubaix Classic and 5th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC (3 Div-1)

Name: Niguel Verme
Team: Abelixe
OCM Tour Rank: 94th
OCM Tour Points: 630
Points inside category: 540 (85%)
1 win, including 1th Haute-Normandie GC (1 Div-2)
3 other results, including 4th Minsk CBGP (3 Div-2)


Name: Tarjei Thorvaldsen
Team: Team Seidel
OCM Tour Rank: 100th
OCM Tour Points: 610
Points inside category: 610 (100%)
2 wins, including 1th Roubaix Classic (2 Div-1)
1 other result, (1 Div-1)

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Post  Don Hamstre Thu May 24, 2018 4:15 pm

I'd say Thorvaldsen instead of van Bockorst.

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Post  ROGERO Wed May 23, 2018 11:20 pm

Here are my 12 nominees;

Name: Márcio Fialho
Team: Comfius
OCM Tour Rank: 9th
OCM Tour Points: 1180
Points inside category: 1060 (89%)
2 wins, including 1th Roubaix Classic (2 Div-1)
4 other results, including 4th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC and 2th Antwerpen - Huy (4 Div-1)

Name: Theofanis Anastasakis
Team: California Mist
OCM Tour Rank: 18th
OCM Tour Points: 1040
Points inside category: 910 (87%)
0 wins
5 other results, including 9th Haute-Normandie GC, 3th Antwerpen - Huy and 2th Minsk CBGP (2 Div-1, 1 Div-1.1, 2 Div-2)

Name: Błażej Urbanek
Team: Aesop
OCM Tour Rank: 21th
OCM Tour Points: 1020
Points inside category: 1020 (100%)
0 wins
6 other results, including 6th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC and 6th Antwerpen - Huy (3 Div-1, 1 Div-1.1, 2 Div-2)

Name: Aureli Delon
Team: Cremtec
OCM Tour Rank: 32th
OCM Tour Points: 918
Points inside category: 870 (95%)
1 win, (1 Div-2)
6 other results, including 2th Haute-Normandie GC, 8th Antwerpen - Huy, 3th Minsk CBGP and 5th Astana GP (3 Div-1, 3 Div-2)

Name: Miron Tredyakovsky
Team: NightmareChaos
OCM Tour Rank: 43th
OCM Tour Points: 880
Points inside category: 880 (100%)
1 win, including 1th Minsk CBGP (1 Div-2)
3 other results, (3 Div-2)

Name: Nicolaus Schwarz
Team: Biertje
OCM Tour Rank: 55th
OCM Tour Points: 790
Points inside category: 710 (90%)
2 wins (1 Div-1.1)
2 other results, including 5th Antwerpen - Huy (1 Div-1, 1 Div-2)

Name: Rolf Snow
Team: Amersfoort Cycling
OCM Tour Rank: 58th
OCM Tour Points: 770
Points inside category: 770 (100%)
2 wins (2 Div-2)
4 other results, including 2th Turnai - Turnai (4 Div-3)

Name: Andrea Giannoni
Team: de stamper
OCM Tour Rank: 59th
OCM Tour Points: 768
Points inside category: 640 (83%)
2 wins, including 1th Turnai - Turnai (2 Div-3)
1 other result (1 Div-3)

Name: Gale Reason
Team: Jonas Pro Cycling
OCM Tour Rank: 65th
OCM Tour Points: 750
Points inside category: 410 (54%)
2 wins, including 1th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC (2 Div-1)
2 other results, including 3th Roubaix Classic and 7th Antwerpen - Huy (2 Div-1)

Name: Jean-Pierre Van Bockorst
Team: MOVISTAR KELME TEAM
OCM Tour Rank: 67 th
OCM Tour Points: 740
Points inside category: 640 (86%)
0 wins
3 other results, including 2th Astana GP, 7th Roubaix Classic and 5th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC (3 Div-1)

Name: Zebediah Mauldin
Team: Lardy Boys
OCM Tour Rank: 73th
OCM Tour Points: 720
Points inside category: 660 (91%)
0 wins
4 other results, (2 Div-2, 2 Div-3)

Name: Niguel Verme
Team: Abelixe
OCM Tour Rank: 94th
OCM Tour Points: 630
Points inside category: 540 (85%)
1 win, including 1th Haute-Normandie GC (1 Div-2)
3 other results, including 4th Minsk CBGP (3 Div-2)


Above are the first 12 teams on the ranking, but i have 3 riders (see under) that make a podium and/or a Classic result in a cobbler Tour.
What are you thinking about these teams, must i let fall teams from the first 12 ore?
Please give me youre opinion, after this i can change someone....

Name: Ottar Grimstad
Team: Conero cycling team
OCM Tour Rank: 94th
OCM Tour Points: 630
Points inside category: 520 (82%)
0 wins
3 other results, including 4th Roubaix Classic and 9th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC (2 Div-1, 1 Div-1.1)

Name: Tarjei Thorvaldsen
Team: Team Seidel
OCM Tour Rank: 100th
OCM Tour Points: 610
Points inside category: 610 (100%)
2 wins, including 1th Roubaix Classic (2 Div-1)
1 other result, (1 Div-1)

Name: Vuong Dúc The
Team: Pelles Gazelles
OCM Tour Rank: 111th
OCM Tour Points: 580
Points inside category: 430 (74%)
0 wins
2 other results, including 3th Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC and 9th Antwerpen - Huy (2 Div-1)

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Post  Don Hamstre Fri May 18, 2018 2:43 pm

Points inside category count for the following:

- normal races or tour stages where CB>4
- Bastonge-Hasselt is an exclusion and does not count
- TvA and Haute Normandie GC Results


New: use of Chilibot

Thanks to Alexander from Team Chili, nominating in specialist categories gets a little bit easier. If you want an overview of the top-20 riders of this category based on points scored in races inside category in Division 1 t/m 3, do the following:

- Go to the OCM Chat
- look if 'chilibot' is online (it usually is)
- type in '/query chilibot'
- In the individual conversation screen with chilibot, type in 'q awardType 44 CB'
- You will now get a response from chilibot, giving you a link to the top-20, with points scored attached.

Beware however, this list does not take into account results in Div4 or lower, so always check if a rider has scored in any of those divisions before posting his points inside category. Also, make sure you don't miss that great rider who has won 10 races, but never made it to the higher divisions.


Format for this category:

Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category: (Percentage between brackets)
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)


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