Best Cobbler
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Re: Best Cobbler
Giannoni out agreed.
Paraschiv over Vavilov agreed as well.
Paraschiv over Vavilov agreed as well.
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Re: Best Cobbler
I would leave out Giannoni to get to seven.
And what do you think about Paraschiv vs. Vavilov?
And what do you think about Paraschiv vs. Vavilov?
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Manually I get these numbers:
Bjelland 1750 (100%)
Casero 920 (100%)
Jogan 950 (96%)
Myagmartseren 750 (100%)
Dekker 710 (100%)
Vavilov 700 (100%)
Uchman 640 (100%)
Giannoni 620 (100%)
Bjelland 1750 (100%)
Casero 920 (100%)
Jogan 950 (96%)
Myagmartseren 750 (100%)
Dekker 710 (100%)
Vavilov 700 (100%)
Uchman 640 (100%)
Giannoni 620 (100%)
Last edited by Holwerda on Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:28 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Best Cobbler
Chilibot does not include most of the new races and a lot of lower division races. So the points do indeed always need extra checking.
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That’s what got me too, I went through each rider meticulously and the points inside of category was different for every single one. Might just be a coding issue on chilibot end but still an extremely useful tool. Can remember for s26 where you had to go through the rankings and remember what riders had done that season so you could make a list of the best
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I don't understand the points and points inside category. Is chilibot not correct?
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Read my own post and saw that I forgot to put the names in there of the three low division cobblers with multiple wins. I do not have their names anymore
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Also nice list of cobblers.
Personally I like Paraschiv more than Vavilov. Because of more wins and better results in classic/tour.
I three names of lower division cobblers, but I cannot make an easy decision if one of them should be in.
Personally I like Paraschiv more than Vavilov. Because of more wins and better results in classic/tour.
I three names of lower division cobblers, but I cannot make an easy decision if one of them should be in.
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Name: Mats Bjelland
Team: Jonas Pro Cycling
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 1750
Points inside category: 1750 (100%)
8 wins inside category, including Astana GP (8 Div 1)
6 other results inside category, including 6th place Antwerpen-Huy & 3rd place GC Tweedaagse van Antwerpen (6 Div 1)
Name: Pedro Casero
Team: Abelixe
OCM Tour Rank: 29th
OCM Tour Points: 930
Points inside category: 930 (100%)
2 wins inside category, (1 Div 1, 1 Div 1.1)
4 other results inside category, including 2nd place Astana GP & 4th place GC Haute-Normandie (1 Div 1, 3 Div 2)
Name: Stane Jogan
Team: KK Fajfa
OCM Tour Rank: 23rd
OCM Tour Points: 990
Points inside category: 900 (91%)
1 win inside category (1 Div 2)
5 other results inside category, including 9th place Minsk CBGP (1 Div 1.1, 4 Div 2)
Name: Kuzhuk Myagmartseren
Team: Ocaña
OCM Tour Rank: 54th
OCM Tour Points: 750
Points inside category: 750 (100%)
2 wins inside category (2 Div 2)
2 other results inside category, including 2nd place Minsk CBGP (2 Div 2)
Name: Chris Dekker
Team: MOVISTAR KELME TEAM
OCM Tour Rank: 59th
OCM Tour Points: 710
Points inside category: 710 (100%)
1 win inside category, Antwerpen-Huy (1 Div 1)
4 other results inside category, including 5th place Astana GP (2 Div 1, 2 Div 1.1)
Name: Konstantin Vavilov
Team: Conero cycling team
OCM Tour Rank: 61st
OCM Tour Points: 700
Points inside category: 700 (100%)
2 wins inside category (2 Div 2)
3 other results inside category (3 Div 2)
Name: Gracjan Uchman
Team: V02maXXers
OCM Tour Rank: 80th
OCM Tour Points: 640
Points inside category: 640 (100%)
3 wins inside category, including GC win Tweedaagse van Antwerpen & Classic win Roubaix Classic (3 Div 1)
2 other results inside category, including 5th place Antwerpen-Huy (2 Div 1)
Name: Andrea Giannoni
Team: de stamper
OCM Tour Rank: 90th
OCM Tour Points: 620
Points inside category: 620 (100%)
0 wins inside category
4 other results inside category, including 9th place Antwerpen-Huy (1 Div 1, 1 Div 1.1, 2 Div 2)
Team: Jonas Pro Cycling
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 1750
Points inside category: 1750 (100%)
8 wins inside category, including Astana GP (8 Div 1)
6 other results inside category, including 6th place Antwerpen-Huy & 3rd place GC Tweedaagse van Antwerpen (6 Div 1)
Name: Pedro Casero
Team: Abelixe
OCM Tour Rank: 29th
OCM Tour Points: 930
Points inside category: 930 (100%)
2 wins inside category, (1 Div 1, 1 Div 1.1)
4 other results inside category, including 2nd place Astana GP & 4th place GC Haute-Normandie (1 Div 1, 3 Div 2)
Name: Stane Jogan
Team: KK Fajfa
OCM Tour Rank: 23rd
OCM Tour Points: 990
Points inside category: 900 (91%)
1 win inside category (1 Div 2)
5 other results inside category, including 9th place Minsk CBGP (1 Div 1.1, 4 Div 2)
Name: Kuzhuk Myagmartseren
Team: Ocaña
OCM Tour Rank: 54th
OCM Tour Points: 750
Points inside category: 750 (100%)
2 wins inside category (2 Div 2)
2 other results inside category, including 2nd place Minsk CBGP (2 Div 2)
Name: Chris Dekker
Team: MOVISTAR KELME TEAM
OCM Tour Rank: 59th
OCM Tour Points: 710
Points inside category: 710 (100%)
1 win inside category, Antwerpen-Huy (1 Div 1)
4 other results inside category, including 5th place Astana GP (2 Div 1, 2 Div 1.1)
Name: Konstantin Vavilov
Team: Conero cycling team
OCM Tour Rank: 61st
OCM Tour Points: 700
Points inside category: 700 (100%)
2 wins inside category (2 Div 2)
3 other results inside category (3 Div 2)
Name: Gracjan Uchman
Team: V02maXXers
OCM Tour Rank: 80th
OCM Tour Points: 640
Points inside category: 640 (100%)
3 wins inside category, including GC win Tweedaagse van Antwerpen & Classic win Roubaix Classic (3 Div 1)
2 other results inside category, including 5th place Antwerpen-Huy (2 Div 1)
Name: Andrea Giannoni
Team: de stamper
OCM Tour Rank: 90th
OCM Tour Points: 620
Points inside category: 620 (100%)
0 wins inside category
4 other results inside category, including 9th place Antwerpen-Huy (1 Div 1, 1 Div 1.1, 2 Div 2)
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Best Cobbler
Points inside category count for the following:
- normal races or tour stages where CB>4
- Bastonge-Hasselt is an exclusion and does not count
- TvA, Haute Normandie, and Lagoa dos Patos GC Results
New: use of Chilibot
Thanks to Alexander from Team Chili, nominating in specialist categories gets a little bit easier. If you want an overview of the top-20 riders of this category based on points scored in races inside category in Division 1 t/m 3, do the following:
- Go to the OCM Chat
- look if 'chilibot' is online (it usually is)
- type in '/query chilibot'
- In the individual conversation screen with chilibot, type in 'q awardType 49 CB' (the number represents the season, so it might be wrong if I forgot to edit it)
- You will now get a response from chilibot, giving you a link to the top-20, with points scored attached.
Beware however, this list does not take into account results in Div4 or lower, or tour stage/gc results, so always check if a rider has scored in any of those divisions/races before posting his points inside category. Also, make sure you don't miss that great rider who has won 10 races, but never made it to the higher divisions.
Format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category: (Percentage between brackets)
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Name: Charles Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 20th
OCM Tour Points: 1000
Points inside category: 800 (80%)
2 wins inside category, including Turnai-Turnai (1 Div2, 1 Div3)
5 other results inside category, including 3rd place Lagoa dos Patos GC (1 Div1.1, 1 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate Charles Doe lol!
- normal races or tour stages where CB>4
- Bastonge-Hasselt is an exclusion and does not count
- TvA, Haute Normandie, and Lagoa dos Patos GC Results
New: use of Chilibot
Thanks to Alexander from Team Chili, nominating in specialist categories gets a little bit easier. If you want an overview of the top-20 riders of this category based on points scored in races inside category in Division 1 t/m 3, do the following:
- Go to the OCM Chat
- look if 'chilibot' is online (it usually is)
- type in '/query chilibot'
- In the individual conversation screen with chilibot, type in 'q awardType 49 CB' (the number represents the season, so it might be wrong if I forgot to edit it)
- You will now get a response from chilibot, giving you a link to the top-20, with points scored attached.
Beware however, this list does not take into account results in Div4 or lower, or tour stage/gc results, so always check if a rider has scored in any of those divisions/races before posting his points inside category. Also, make sure you don't miss that great rider who has won 10 races, but never made it to the higher divisions.
Format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category: (Percentage between brackets)
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Name: Charles Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 20th
OCM Tour Points: 1000
Points inside category: 800 (80%)
2 wins inside category, including Turnai-Turnai (1 Div2, 1 Div3)
5 other results inside category, including 3rd place Lagoa dos Patos GC (1 Div1.1, 1 Div2, 3 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate Charles Doe lol!
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