Best Manager
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Danner makes it in
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Michael Danner
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Yeah, waiting for all WC results so I only have to do one edit
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I can see your point.
WC ITT results still to be added ofc.
WC ITT results still to be added ofc.
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Didn't do a complete overhaul after all, because it's still very hard to find teams with smaller budget that have won a lot. And hard to leave out those that did win a lot. I just added two managers to the vote now. Still happy with my top-3, but can be convinced otherwise.
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Kinda did an overnight 180 on this, so will put a bit more effort into making a list of people I think managed their team exceptionally well compared to rider strenght. And I guess Danner might end up being one of those.
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He's been at a lower level than normal division wise, and was beaten at that level more than once. He's had seasons where he dominanted Div1 Tours, so winning a few in Div3 and 2 is quite run of the mill for him. I do respect his ability to plan his seasons immensely, but at some point he can't be an auto-nomination just for that.
Alpine did perform below his own level pointswise, but still dominated Division 1 classics and Tours. That's still a bit harder to do than winning in Division 2 and 3. But if I thought Alpine had a great season he would have been in the top-3, he's in the vote for a reason, so we probably mostly agree on his season. There's just not much left to win for others and stand out to get into this nomination race when 3 teams pretty much win everything in Div1, and 1 other team cleans up on the lower level every season.
Alpine did perform below his own level pointswise, but still dominated Division 1 classics and Tours. That's still a bit harder to do than winning in Division 2 and 3. But if I thought Alpine had a great season he would have been in the top-3, he's in the vote for a reason, so we probably mostly agree on his season. There's just not much left to win for others and stand out to get into this nomination race when 3 teams pretty much win everything in Div1, and 1 other team cleans up on the lower level every season.
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Controversial indeed But we are doing the same discussion every season I suppose. A bad season with 9 jerseys and 1 trophy? I'd say CCC nominated, Alpine (speaking of below own standards) out of the vote, Silenzio in the vote. I won Provence as well.
I matters not. A clear 1 vs. 1 this award I suppose.
I matters not. A clear 1 vs. 1 this award I suppose.
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Name: Honzas
Team: PEKAC B
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 5780
16 wins, including Germany SC, Astana GP, Copa Salsa, Vuelta SC, Norwich-London (all Div1)
23 other results, including 2nd Essex GC, 3rd Bergen Rundtur, TvA GC, 8th WC ITT, Helsinki GP (all Div1)
Name: Donald
Team: Andeby
OCM Tour Rank: 1st
OCM Tour Points: 5960
9 wins, including World Championships ITT (all Div1)
21 other results, including 5th WC ITT, 7th WC ITT, Scottish Heritage GC (3rd YC), 9th Essex GC (all Div1)
Name: The Erwinator
Team: Silenzio
OCM Tour Rank: 4th
OCM Tour Points: 4324
14 wins, including World Championships, Germany GC & YC, Antwerpen - Huy, TvA GC, Criterium la Provence (all Div1)
17 other results, including 2nd Copa Salsa, Norwich-London, 3rd Droz Cup, 4th Vuelta GC, Roubaix (all Div1)
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Name: BigBoss
Team: LoleursLovers
OCM Tour Rank: 3rd
OCM Tour Points: 4810
4 wins (all Div1)
25 other results, including 2nd Scottish Heritage GC, 3rd Critérium La Provence, Germany GC, 4th Alpe D'Huez, TBBT GC, 5th Roubaix, Bergen Rundtur, 6th Antwerpen - Huy, 8th Essex GC (all Div1)
Name: Snowbear
Team: Alpine
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 3726
10 wins, including WC ITT U23, Essex GC, Vuelta GC, Roubaix Classic (9 Div1, 1 U23-Div1)
26 other results, including 2nd World Championships, 2nd World Championships ITT, TBBT GC, 4th Antwerpen - Huy, 5th Scottish Heritage GC (2nd YC), 6th WC ITT, TvA GC, Droz Cup, 7th Germany GC (23 Div1, 1 U23-Div1)
Name: Pedalling Squares
Team: UK Postal Service
OCM Tour Rank: 39th
OCM Tour Points: 2357
7 wins, including Grasse - Toulon, TvA YC (3 Div1, 1 Div1.1, 3 Div2)
11 other results, including 2nd Germany SC, Lappi Sea GP, Vejle-Kobenhavn, 3rd Astana GP, 6th Roubaix, 8th TvA GC (7 Div1, 3 Div2, 1 special classic)
Name: Michael Danner
Team: CyclingClubChomutov
OCM Tour Rank: 87th
OCM Tour Points: 1518
15 wins, including Western Cape GC, Karpaty Tyr YC, Ganges GC & YC, La Génération Future GC, Cymru YC, Ainet - Bruggen, Two Pass Tour GC & SC (8 Div2, 2 Div3, 5 U23-Div1)
14 other results, including 2nd Karpaty Tyr GC, Cymru GC, 8th La Génération Future GC (6 Div2 7 Div3, 1 U23-Div1)
Team: PEKAC B
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 5780
16 wins, including Germany SC, Astana GP, Copa Salsa, Vuelta SC, Norwich-London (all Div1)
23 other results, including 2nd Essex GC, 3rd Bergen Rundtur, TvA GC, 8th WC ITT, Helsinki GP (all Div1)
Name: Donald
Team: Andeby
OCM Tour Rank: 1st
OCM Tour Points: 5960
9 wins, including World Championships ITT (all Div1)
21 other results, including 5th WC ITT, 7th WC ITT, Scottish Heritage GC (3rd YC), 9th Essex GC (all Div1)
Name: The Erwinator
Team: Silenzio
OCM Tour Rank: 4th
OCM Tour Points: 4324
14 wins, including World Championships, Germany GC & YC, Antwerpen - Huy, TvA GC, Criterium la Provence (all Div1)
17 other results, including 2nd Copa Salsa, Norwich-London, 3rd Droz Cup, 4th Vuelta GC, Roubaix (all Div1)
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Name: BigBoss
Team: LoleursLovers
OCM Tour Rank: 3rd
OCM Tour Points: 4810
4 wins (all Div1)
25 other results, including 2nd Scottish Heritage GC, 3rd Critérium La Provence, Germany GC, 4th Alpe D'Huez, TBBT GC, 5th Roubaix, Bergen Rundtur, 6th Antwerpen - Huy, 8th Essex GC (all Div1)
Name: Snowbear
Team: Alpine
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 3726
10 wins, including WC ITT U23, Essex GC, Vuelta GC, Roubaix Classic (9 Div1, 1 U23-Div1)
26 other results, including 2nd World Championships, 2nd World Championships ITT, TBBT GC, 4th Antwerpen - Huy, 5th Scottish Heritage GC (2nd YC), 6th WC ITT, TvA GC, Droz Cup, 7th Germany GC (23 Div1, 1 U23-Div1)
Name: Pedalling Squares
Team: UK Postal Service
OCM Tour Rank: 39th
OCM Tour Points: 2357
7 wins, including Grasse - Toulon, TvA YC (3 Div1, 1 Div1.1, 3 Div2)
11 other results, including 2nd Germany SC, Lappi Sea GP, Vejle-Kobenhavn, 3rd Astana GP, 6th Roubaix, 8th TvA GC (7 Div1, 3 Div2, 1 special classic)
Name: Michael Danner
Team: CyclingClubChomutov
OCM Tour Rank: 87th
OCM Tour Points: 1518
15 wins, including Western Cape GC, Karpaty Tyr YC, Ganges GC & YC, La Génération Future GC, Cymru YC, Ainet - Bruggen, Two Pass Tour GC & SC (8 Div2, 2 Div3, 5 U23-Div1)
14 other results, including 2nd Karpaty Tyr GC, Cymru GC, 8th La Génération Future GC (6 Div2 7 Div3, 1 U23-Div1)
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Best Manager
The format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 1000
3 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (1 Div2, 2 Div3)
8 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 5 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 1000
3 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (1 Div2, 2 Div3)
8 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 5 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
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