Best WT Manager
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El Salvador wins the vote for the final spot
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El Salvador
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El Salvador for me as well.
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El Salvador has my vote
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Thanks very much. Fixed.
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Looks good, two corrections:
Namibia two wins are Lozuvatka - Kryvyi Rih (WT) and Lisboa - Peniche (WT)
El Salvador has 4 other results, also a second place in Nitra - Zvolen (WT)
Namibia two wins are Lozuvatka - Kryvyi Rih (WT) and Lisboa - Peniche (WT)
El Salvador has 4 other results, also a second place in Nitra - Zvolen (WT)
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Ready for checking. Three nominees further below and two candidates to be voted on just under this.
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Name: luis
Nation: El Salvador
OCM World Tour Rank: 32nd
OCM World Tour Points: 300
Number of ranked riders: 7
1 win, Somerset Village - Fort Victoria (1 WT Div-D)
4 other results, 2nd Talca - Laguna del Maule, Nitra - Zvolen, 3rd Koper - Kolovrat, 3rd Minas - Montevideo (1 WT Div-C, 3 WT Div-D)
Name: Oriental
Nation: Hong Kong
OCM World Tour Rank: 25th
OCM World Tour Points: 408
Number of ranked riders: 8
2 wins, Nitra - Zvolen, Tabor Grandprix (1 WT Div-B, 1 WT Div-D)
2 other results, 2nd Arabuko Sokoke Forest - Mombasa, 3rd Zürich - Lugano (1 WT Div-C, 1 WT Div-D)
Nation: El Salvador
OCM World Tour Rank: 32nd
OCM World Tour Points: 300
Number of ranked riders: 7
1 win, Somerset Village - Fort Victoria (1 WT Div-D)
4 other results, 2nd Talca - Laguna del Maule, Nitra - Zvolen, 3rd Koper - Kolovrat, 3rd Minas - Montevideo (1 WT Div-C, 3 WT Div-D)
Name: Oriental
Nation: Hong Kong
OCM World Tour Rank: 25th
OCM World Tour Points: 408
Number of ranked riders: 8
2 wins, Nitra - Zvolen, Tabor Grandprix (1 WT Div-B, 1 WT Div-D)
2 other results, 2nd Arabuko Sokoke Forest - Mombasa, 3rd Zürich - Lugano (1 WT Div-C, 1 WT Div-D)
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I wrote this in the post I accidentally deleted, but agree with Coulter. Brazil had a great season, but didn't outperform some smaller countries with a lesser selection of riders, Namibia included.
El Salvador and Hong Kong up for vote makes sense to me. I'll add their info later.
El Salvador and Hong Kong up for vote makes sense to me. I'll add their info later.
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I think Brazil shouldn't be nominated -- NZ had a better season with less active teams and less riders and I agree with NZ not being nominated. For me, WT isn't all about wins, its more about rankings -- many nations don't have any riders likely to win a WT race (especially WT A), so those who lie high up the rankings with little to no riders deserve nominations: Hong Kong, El Salvador would be my choice for voting purposes. Winning over the big nations like Norway, England or the Netherlands (esp!) is often luck in WT.
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Name: Frank Holwerda
Nation: Netherlands
OCM World Tour Rank: 1st
OCM World Tour Points: 1820
Number of ranked riders: 309
3 wins, CoN Delhi, CoN Beijing, CoN Washington City TT (WT Div-A)
7 other results, 2nd Bukarest - Sinaia, Con Paris, Bruxelles - Liège, Barcelona - Quanca, and 3rd Velikiye Luki - Gruzdovo, CoN Rio de Janeiro, Lisboa - Peniche (WT Div-A)
Name: Goege
Nation: Namibia
OCM World Tour Rank: 8th
OCM World Tour Points: 800
Number of ranked riders: 13
2 wins, Lozuvatka - Kryvyi Rih, Lisboa - Peniche (1 WT Div-A, 1 WT Div-B)
2 other results, 2nd CoN Delhi, CoN Rio de Janeiro (WT Div-A)
Name: Simon de Montfort
Nation: Poland
OCM World Tour Rank: 3rd
OCM World Tour Points: 900
Number of ranked riders: 127
2 wins, CoN Paris, Oslo Grand Prix (WT Div-A)
1 other result, 2nd CoN Sydney (WT Div-A)
Nation: Netherlands
OCM World Tour Rank: 1st
OCM World Tour Points: 1820
Number of ranked riders: 309
3 wins, CoN Delhi, CoN Beijing, CoN Washington City TT (WT Div-A)
7 other results, 2nd Bukarest - Sinaia, Con Paris, Bruxelles - Liège, Barcelona - Quanca, and 3rd Velikiye Luki - Gruzdovo, CoN Rio de Janeiro, Lisboa - Peniche (WT Div-A)
Name: Goege
Nation: Namibia
OCM World Tour Rank: 8th
OCM World Tour Points: 800
Number of ranked riders: 13
2 wins, Lozuvatka - Kryvyi Rih, Lisboa - Peniche (1 WT Div-A, 1 WT Div-B)
2 other results, 2nd CoN Delhi, CoN Rio de Janeiro (WT Div-A)
Name: Simon de Montfort
Nation: Poland
OCM World Tour Rank: 3rd
OCM World Tour Points: 900
Number of ranked riders: 127
2 wins, CoN Paris, Oslo Grand Prix (WT Div-A)
1 other result, 2nd CoN Sydney (WT Div-A)
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Notes to myself when I have to redo this before I forget:
Netherlands had 3 straight wins in CoN, 7 other results
Poland had 2 wins, 1 other results
Namibia had 2 wins (Lisboa and the first WTB race) and 2 results in the climbing races
@Silenzio fair enough with El Salvador and Hong Kong, but I'm still not convinced by Brazil. Equalling Namibia but with a better selection of riders, including Douglas Brasil...
Netherlands had 3 straight wins in CoN, 7 other results
Poland had 2 wins, 1 other results
Namibia had 2 wins (Lisboa and the first WTB race) and 2 results in the climbing races
@Silenzio fair enough with El Salvador and Hong Kong, but I'm still not convinced by Brazil. Equalling Namibia but with a better selection of riders, including Douglas Brasil...
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AAAAHHH I just spent 15 minutes putting together the nominee information and I think I closed my tab
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Completely agree on the nominations
Wrt the discussion: Its correct that the four you mention have 1 win.
Since El Salvador has 4 other results I think the deserve to be in the vote.
I think Hong Kong should be included too: 2 wins and 2 other results (1 ranked team, 8 ranked riders) --> 25th with 408 points.
I think I like Brazil for the vote too. They tie 8th place with Namibia, so would say rank 8th.
Would leave out Kyrgyzstan and Timor-Leste. 1 win and 1 other result isn't enough in this case I think. Other countries Belgium, Germany, Macau, Colombia, Wales, Liechtenstein, Burundi had two wins.
Wrt the discussion: Its correct that the four you mention have 1 win.
Since El Salvador has 4 other results I think the deserve to be in the vote.
I think Hong Kong should be included too: 2 wins and 2 other results (1 ranked team, 8 ranked riders) --> 25th with 408 points.
I think I like Brazil for the vote too. They tie 8th place with Namibia, so would say rank 8th.
Would leave out Kyrgyzstan and Timor-Leste. 1 win and 1 other result isn't enough in this case I think. Other countries Belgium, Germany, Macau, Colombia, Wales, Liechtenstein, Burundi had two wins.
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NOMINATED
Netherlands
Poland
Namibia
TO DISCUSS
All four of these had 1 win (I think, didn't check CoN). I list their WT rankings, points, ranked teams, and ranked riders.
Brazil 9th 800 6 42
Kyrgyzstan 18th 520 3 20
El Salvador 32nd 300 1 7
Timor-Leste 42nd 230 1 4
I would put Brazil last since I think Namibia clearly has a stronger case.
So that would put Kyrgyzstan, El Salvador, and Timor-Leste up to vote.
Any objections?
Netherlands
Poland
Namibia
TO DISCUSS
All four of these had 1 win (I think, didn't check CoN). I list their WT rankings, points, ranked teams, and ranked riders.
Brazil 9th 800 6 42
Kyrgyzstan 18th 520 3 20
El Salvador 32nd 300 1 7
Timor-Leste 42nd 230 1 4
I would put Brazil last since I think Namibia clearly has a stronger case.
So that would put Kyrgyzstan, El Salvador, and Timor-Leste up to vote.
Any objections?
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Nice list. Maybe El Salvador?
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Some candidates:
Netherlands
Poland
New Zealand
Namibia
Brazil
Kyrgyzstan
Timor-Leste
Thoughts? Anyone I missed who should be in?
Netherlands
Poland
New Zealand
Namibia
Brazil
Kyrgyzstan
Timor-Leste
Thoughts? Anyone I missed who should be in?
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Best WT Manager
Format for this category:
Name:
Nation:
OCM World Tour Rank:
OCM World Tour Points:
Number of ranked riders:
wins, mention all wins (Divisions in which races were won)
other results mention all results (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Nation: Hordaland
OCM World Tour Rank: 26th
OCM World Tour Points: 400
Number of ranked riders: 42
1 win, Minas- Montevideo (WT Div-C)
2 other results, 2nd Budapest-Debrecen, 3rd Tabor Grandprix (1 WT Div-B, 1 WT Div-C)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
Name:
Nation:
OCM World Tour Rank:
OCM World Tour Points:
Number of ranked riders:
wins, mention all wins (Divisions in which races were won)
other results mention all results (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Nation: Hordaland
OCM World Tour Rank: 26th
OCM World Tour Points: 400
Number of ranked riders: 42
1 win, Minas- Montevideo (WT Div-C)
2 other results, 2nd Budapest-Debrecen, 3rd Tabor Grandprix (1 WT Div-B, 1 WT Div-C)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
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