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Alpine makes it 4-3-0
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tough choices. Alpine for my vote.
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I usually say 'rank 25-125' for Vejli-Kobenhavn. But whatever seems best to you is fine with me, as long as it's consistent.
The classic and tour results all have to be mentioned indeed, so that's good.
The classic and tour results all have to be mentioned indeed, so that's good.
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Thanks guys.
Oh, honzas without a capital H.... I always try to think about that when typing paceuts and I also noticed it of futerko, but will update it for honzas too
The ND for V-K: yeah, you are right. I put it down as 1.1 because ND makes it less clear imo and 1.1 has the most overlap. Will keep it like this if you dont mind.
The results for classics and tours are supposed to be like this, see Dons' opening post.
Oh, honzas without a capital H.... I always try to think about that when typing paceuts and I also noticed it of futerko, but will update it for honzas too
The ND for V-K: yeah, you are right. I put it down as 1.1 because ND makes it less clear imo and 1.1 has the most overlap. Will keep it like this if you dont mind.
The results for classics and tours are supposed to be like this, see Dons' opening post.
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Doublechecked. Looks great!
Going to mention some irrelevant details:
Vejle-København is ND (futerko and honzas).
Honzas is spelled without capital: honzas
I wouldn't mention all specific results in classics, maybe only podiums in classics/GCs/YCs.
Going to mention some irrelevant details:
Vejle-København is ND (futerko and honzas).
Honzas is spelled without capital: honzas
I wouldn't mention all specific results in classics, maybe only podiums in classics/GCs/YCs.
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Checked. It is all perfect. Well done!
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Vote:
Name: futerko
Team: team futerko
OCM Tour Rank: 11th
OCM Tour Points: 2932
10 wins, including Vejle-København, Nederlandse Tour GC, Volta ao Porto SC (1 Div. 1, 4 Div. 1.1, 5 Div. 2)
12 other results, including 3rd in Helsinki GP, 4th in Copa Salsa de Cali, 7th in Astana GP (9 Div. 1, 3 Div. 2)
Name: futerko
Team: team futerko
OCM Tour Rank: 11th
OCM Tour Points: 2932
10 wins, including Vejle-København, Nederlandse Tour GC, Volta ao Porto SC (1 Div. 1, 4 Div. 1.1, 5 Div. 2)
12 other results, including 3rd in Helsinki GP, 4th in Copa Salsa de Cali, 7th in Astana GP (9 Div. 1, 3 Div. 2)
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Vote:
Name: Oli
Team: Spin Doctors
OCM Tour Rank: 36th
OCM Tour Points: 2200
11 wins, including Germany Tour GC, Vuelta a Valparaìso GC and SC (3 Div. 1, 8 Div. 2)
7 other results, including 2nd in Cymru Taith, 2nd in World Championship, 3rd in Volta ao Porto GC (1 Div. 1, 1 Div. 1.1, 5 Div. 2)
Name: Oli
Team: Spin Doctors
OCM Tour Rank: 36th
OCM Tour Points: 2200
11 wins, including Germany Tour GC, Vuelta a Valparaìso GC and SC (3 Div. 1, 8 Div. 2)
7 other results, including 2nd in Cymru Taith, 2nd in World Championship, 3rd in Volta ao Porto GC (1 Div. 1, 1 Div. 1.1, 5 Div. 2)
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Name: Snowbear
Team: Alpine
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 3682
8 wins, including Astana GP, Critérium La Provence, World Championship and Tweedaagse van Antwerpen YC (8 Div. 1)
19 other results, including 2nd in Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC, 3rd in Germany Tour GC, 3rd in Bergen Rundtur, 4th in Vuelta de los Castillos GC, 4th in Antwerpen-Huy, 7th in Alpe d`Huez Classic, 8th in Roubaix Classic (19 Div. 1)
Name: Snowbear
Team: Alpine
OCM Tour Rank: 6th
OCM Tour Points: 3682
8 wins, including Astana GP, Critérium La Provence, World Championship and Tweedaagse van Antwerpen YC (8 Div. 1)
19 other results, including 2nd in Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC, 3rd in Germany Tour GC, 3rd in Bergen Rundtur, 4th in Vuelta de los Castillos GC, 4th in Antwerpen-Huy, 7th in Alpe d`Huez Classic, 8th in Roubaix Classic (19 Div. 1)
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Certain:
Name: Jempie
Team: Comfius
OCM Tour Rank: 1st
OCM Tour Points: 7104
13 wins, (13 Div. 1)
26 other results, including 2nd in Bergen Rundtur, 3rd in Antwerpen-Huy, 7th in Roubaix Classic and 8th in Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC, (26 Div. 1)
Name: honzas
Team: PEKAC B
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 5324
13 wins, including Alpe d`Huez Classic and Patryk Drozdowski Trophy Cup (10 Div. 1, 3 Div. 2)
26 other results, including 2nd in Ainet-Bruggen, 2nd in Volta ao Porto GC, 3rd in Germany Tour YC, 4th and 8th in Germany Tour GC, 5th in Essex Tour GC, 7th in World Championships, 7th in Helsinki GP, 7th in Critérium La Provence, 7th in Bergen Rundtur, 8th in Vejle-København, 9th in Norwich-London (19 Div. 1, 7 Div. 2)
Name: Adilson Silva
Team: Team AEK
OCM Tour Rank: 17th
OCM Tour Points: 3550
17 wins, including Norwich-London, Copa Salsa de Cali, Helsinki GP and Germany Tour SC (17 Div. 1)
15 other results, including 2nd in Astana GP, 2nd in Vuelta de los Castillos SC, 3rd in Patryk Drozdowski Trophy Cup, 4th in World Championships (15 Div. 1)
Name: Jempie
Team: Comfius
OCM Tour Rank: 1st
OCM Tour Points: 7104
13 wins, (13 Div. 1)
26 other results, including 2nd in Bergen Rundtur, 3rd in Antwerpen-Huy, 7th in Roubaix Classic and 8th in Tweedaagse van Antwerpen GC, (26 Div. 1)
Name: honzas
Team: PEKAC B
OCM Tour Rank: 2nd
OCM Tour Points: 5324
13 wins, including Alpe d`Huez Classic and Patryk Drozdowski Trophy Cup (10 Div. 1, 3 Div. 2)
26 other results, including 2nd in Ainet-Bruggen, 2nd in Volta ao Porto GC, 3rd in Germany Tour YC, 4th and 8th in Germany Tour GC, 5th in Essex Tour GC, 7th in World Championships, 7th in Helsinki GP, 7th in Critérium La Provence, 7th in Bergen Rundtur, 8th in Vejle-København, 9th in Norwich-London (19 Div. 1, 7 Div. 2)
Name: Adilson Silva
Team: Team AEK
OCM Tour Rank: 17th
OCM Tour Points: 3550
17 wins, including Norwich-London, Copa Salsa de Cali, Helsinki GP and Germany Tour SC (17 Div. 1)
15 other results, including 2nd in Astana GP, 2nd in Vuelta de los Castillos SC, 3rd in Patryk Drozdowski Trophy Cup, 4th in World Championships (15 Div. 1)
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You can put Oli, futerko and Snowbear in to the vote. Let us decide
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The beauty of Oli/Spin Doctors is achieving great things with a bit more moderate riders compared to the selections of teams as Nefal, Comfius and Alpine.. Ofc, its his own fault he only hires British riders and doesnt build a better team (which is a quality in itself), but given the material he has, I think he did a very notable manager-job this season! For me more than snowbear/Alpine
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Yeah, that puts him probably ahead of the others in the vote anyway, no matter who he is up against.
Spin doctors got the second place in the WC. Still very much in doubt between them and Futerko, although like I said it might not matter against Alpine. The GT/Vuelta combination seems very unique for SD, and now with that 2nd place in the WC. But they finished 37th, against 14th for Futerko...
Spin doctors got the second place in the WC. Still very much in doubt between them and Futerko, although like I said it might not matter against Alpine. The GT/Vuelta combination seems very unique for SD, and now with that 2nd place in the WC. But they finished 37th, against 14th for Futerko...
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A World Championship win can be added to Alpine.
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Those top3 are nobrainers indeed, fully agree.
Futerko and Alpine clearly also very nice seasons, but pale in comparison to the top3. I prefer Spin Doctors over Futerko, because Futerko hasn't been much more than Hadaway and futerko was in D2 for most part of the season I think.
Would have doubted about V02MaXXers as well (5 new palmares), but matter of taste. Not much management there though.
Futerko and Alpine clearly also very nice seasons, but pale in comparison to the top3. I prefer Spin Doctors over Futerko, because Futerko hasn't been much more than Hadaway and futerko was in D2 for most part of the season I think.
Would have doubted about V02MaXXers as well (5 new palmares), but matter of taste. Not much management there though.
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I totally agree with you
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Jempie/Comfius scored the most points again by a great margin, so seems obvious.
Honzas/Pekac with many wins, second place, a classic, PDT cup. No getting around
Adilson/AEK with most wins as far as I can tell, 2 classics, SC of GT, copa salsa... doesnt stop...
Then for the votes, these are all really close IMO:
Alpine: 6th overall, 2 classics, 7 wins in total. Also TvA YC, and an impressive 4 more classics top 9's
Cokol: really dominant in the cobble races, with only 10 riders finishing 19th. Also a classic win, 8 wins in total
Futerko: winning Velje-Kopenhagen, Nederlandse GC, Volta SC, and 10 wins in total, 14th overall
Spin Doctors: Germany GC and Vuelta GC+SC, second in Cymru T and 3rd in Volta. 11 wins in total, but only 37th place overall
I am leaning towards Alpine and Futerko for the vote.
Spin Doctors seems to have the season perfectly planned though with all those classifications, which is also a plus in the best manager category. And 11 wins...
And Cokol a bit similar: to finish in the top 20 with only 10 riders focussing one 1 thing requires some real guts and managing skills.
Your thoughts?
Honzas/Pekac with many wins, second place, a classic, PDT cup. No getting around
Adilson/AEK with most wins as far as I can tell, 2 classics, SC of GT, copa salsa... doesnt stop...
Then for the votes, these are all really close IMO:
Alpine: 6th overall, 2 classics, 7 wins in total. Also TvA YC, and an impressive 4 more classics top 9's
Cokol: really dominant in the cobble races, with only 10 riders finishing 19th. Also a classic win, 8 wins in total
Futerko: winning Velje-Kopenhagen, Nederlandse GC, Volta SC, and 10 wins in total, 14th overall
Spin Doctors: Germany GC and Vuelta GC+SC, second in Cymru T and 3rd in Volta. 11 wins in total, but only 37th place overall
I am leaning towards Alpine and Futerko for the vote.
Spin Doctors seems to have the season perfectly planned though with all those classifications, which is also a plus in the best manager category. And 11 wins...
And Cokol a bit similar: to finish in the top 20 with only 10 riders focussing one 1 thing requires some real guts and managing skills.
Your thoughts?
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Community Pre-Nominations (of course you still decide if you want to nominate them):
Cokol Breakaway Team, reason : A team of only CB riders with a 18th place overall atm (day 86)
Cokol Breakaway Team, reason : A team of only CB riders with a 18th place overall atm (day 86)
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The format for this category:
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 1000
3 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (1 Div2, 2 Div3)
8 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 5 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 1000
3 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (1 Div2, 2 Div3)
8 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 5 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
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