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Post  Don Hamstre Tue May 18, 2021 8:05 am

Tomsek clearly makes it in.

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Post  English Sprinting Team Sat May 15, 2021 1:27 pm

Voted

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Post  Fox_River_Max Thu May 13, 2021 7:17 pm

Tomsek does get my vote.

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Post  paceuts Thu May 13, 2021 4:22 am

Looked through, all looks good.

Tomsek might get my vote to be in there, winning the only two U23 races he was in. Tough to say between Jurd and Diez...

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Post  Fox_River_Max Wed May 12, 2021 3:19 pm

Thanks Don. I had kind of already been taking top 9 into account for Jurd, but it does make his nomination to vote a little stronger to be officially included as a result.

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Post  Don Hamstre Wed May 12, 2021 2:33 pm

Yes, the WC does count as a result, it is the 'Classic' of the U23 category, and often there are a lot of TFs there, so the results do count, despite the bug on the site not having them displayed as such.

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Post  Fox_River_Max Wed May 12, 2021 12:51 pm

Good points. I'll make edits.

And I'd also need confirmation from Don about the 'top 9 in WC' counting as a result. I was not including those.

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Post  Twan_GewoonRechtdoor Wed May 12, 2021 11:26 am

The nominess seem all right, Max, but you have listed all the wins and results. According to the opening post, only the WC-wins (tt and normal) should be mentioned.

1 other tiny thing, which I think I also saw in your other thread.

This format looks a bit confusing to me. Maybe it is only because I am a committee member here and have seen the standard format too much Smile But at first sight this makes me think the rider has 1 win and 2 results:
1 Win, Tyinkrysset - Juvasshytta (U23 Div.1)
2nd at Canmore - Highwood Pass (U23 Div. 1)

I would just stick to the format, and simply say: 1 other result, 2nd at...

Last thing: in the opening post Don has "8th place, WC ITT" as a result, but on the riders page that doesnt show as a result (other than for the normal WC, where it does). So this is more of a question to Don: should this count as a result?

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Post  Fox_River_Max Sat May 08, 2021 3:35 pm

Went with a 3-way vote-off.

Couldn't decide between Jurd and Diez to be in against Tomsek.

(And all may be academic in the long run with Falcon's performance this year.)

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Post  Fox_River_Max Sat May 08, 2021 3:33 pm

To vote:

Name: Zac Jurd
Team: Temora Tornadoes
Age (at start of season): 21
Points inside category: 50
1 Win (U23 Div.1)
2 other results, including 6th at the U23 WC (U23 Div. 1)


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Post  Fox_River_Max Sat May 08, 2021 3:33 pm

To vote:

Name: Fausto Diez
Team: PazCC
Age (at start of season): 22
Points inside category: 88
2 wins (both U23 Div. 3)
1 other result (U23 Div. 2)


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Post  Fox_River_Max Sat May 08, 2021 3:32 pm

To vote:

Name: Peter Tomšek
Team: Team Siverbo
Age (at start of season): 21
Points inside category: 30
2 Wins, including U23 WC ITT (U23 Div. 1)


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Post  Fox_River_Max Sat May 08, 2021 3:31 pm

Certain:

Name: Carlos Falcón
Team: Cyclocomotiv
Age (at start of season): 21
Points inside category: 80
2 Wins (both U23 Div. 1)
2 other results, including 3rd in U23 WC (U23 Div. 1)

Name: Indris Spura
Team: Boavistabest
Age (at start of season): 22
Points inside category: 80
2 Wins (both U23 Div. 2)
1 other result (also U23 Div. 2)

Name: Spartak Klokov
Team: Tashkent Browncoats
Age (at start of season): 21
Points inside category: 62
1 Win (U23 Div. 2)
2 other results (also U23 Div. 2)


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Post  Fox_River_Max Fri May 07, 2021 3:11 pm

A few more workings, but definitely have to wait for U23 WC tomorrow.

Definitely in:
Carlos Falcon (All wins and results - 3 total - in Division 1, won many head-to-heads against other potential nominees)

Right at the edge of being in:
Spura and Klokov - Division 2 results (3 each)

Would require a vote:
Tomšek - U23 ITT champion, one other win

Need to know U23 WC results:
Smidt, Prinsen, Jurd - all options still
Others - winner here with any results elsewhere probably deserves a nomination

Probably out:
Fausto Diez - low level results, don't compare well with above
Donald Auðólfursson - good season results but would lose out to Smidt, Prinsen, Jurd if any score in WC
Koster - loses out because Tomsek beat him in WC ITT

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Post  Fox_River_Max Wed May 05, 2021 1:23 pm

Initial shortlist:

Carlos Falcón
Fausto Diez*
Indris Spura*
Spartak Klokov
Donald Auðólfursson

after
U23 TT WC:
add
-Peter Tomšek
-Fabian Koster

*lower divisions

Waiting for Day 87 races and WC races.

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Post  Don Hamstre Sat May 01, 2021 1:18 pm

Community Pre-Nominations (of course you still decide if you want to nominate them):

Spartak Klokov, reason: Spartak Klokov has won 1 U23 race, got a third spot in 2 more of them and another 4th spot. He will participate in the last U23 of the season, were he might have a chance as well (note from Don, will update this after that race)

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Post  Don Hamstre Sat May 01, 2021 1:02 pm

- Only results in U23 races count



Format for this category:

Name:
Team:
Age (at start of season):
Points inside category:
wins mention U23 WC or U23 WC ITT wins (U-23 Division in which the wins were achieved)
other results mention U23 WC or U23 WC ITT results (U-23 Division in which the results were achieved)

Example:

Name: Baby Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
Age (at start of season): 19
Points inside category: 100
2 wins, including U23 WC (1 U-23 Div-1, 1 U-23 Div2)
2 other results, including 8th place U23 WC TT (1 U-23 Div-1, 1 U23 Div-2)

Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate Baby Doe lol!

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