Best Young Team
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Re: Best Young Team
NP Don, the good news is you realized it before releasing it to the community ^^
Yann
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Re: Best Young Team
Sorry for being so late, here is the overview of the ones missing.
Name: James Mills
Team: Himalaya Bikers
Age: 7 months
OCM World Tour Rank: 202 nd
OCM World Tour Points: 662
3 wins (1 Div4, 2 Div5)
7 other results, including 3rd MRT GC (4 Div4, 3 Div5
Name: Phil
Team: TeamTVM
Age: 11 months
OCM World Tour Rank: 116th
OCM World Tour Points: 1178
9 wins, including FoW GC & SC(4 Div5, 2 Div6, 3 Div7)
10 other results, including 5th Montelbano GC (1 Div3, 2 Div5, 7 Div7)
Name: James Mills
Team: Himalaya Bikers
Age: 7 months
OCM World Tour Rank: 202 nd
OCM World Tour Points: 662
3 wins (1 Div4, 2 Div5)
7 other results, including 3rd MRT GC (4 Div4, 3 Div5
Name: Phil
Team: TeamTVM
Age: 11 months
OCM World Tour Rank: 116th
OCM World Tour Points: 1178
9 wins, including FoW GC & SC(4 Div5, 2 Div6, 3 Div7)
10 other results, including 5th Montelbano GC (1 Div3, 2 Div5, 7 Div7)
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Re: Best Young Team
I've just realised that Sicco has also already won the Award 2 times. So not nominating TVM because of that would be a bit of a mistake. I will add TVM to the form, we'll have 5 nominees there, and we'll let the community vote on the addition of a rule for next season.
Apologies for noticing this late.
Apologies for noticing this late.
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As for unknown and incomprehensible reasons Gewoon Rechtdoor is not nominated my vote will go to Himalaya. Caro is good, but similar to the three already selected, so thats why I’d put Himalaya as 4th.
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Re: Best Young Team
I will add Himalaya Bikers instead of PetrolGas a little later today.
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Re: Best Young Team
Sounds like a good candidate to me.
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This is a difficult category, as there are probably other criteria depending on how old the team actually is...
Phil is a great guy, and it is a great achievement to be where he is after less than a year of playing OCM, but after winning this trophy twice and also becoming an older team the bar should rise a bit for him. TVM dropped to division 7 purposely at the end of the season, and all his wins are from division 7 (mainly), 6 and Fast on Wheels in 5.
How about Himalaya Bikers? Started in june 2020, now around 200th spot. And this team has been competing in the 4th and 5th division the whole season, seeing all their 10 results are accomplished there.
Phil is a great guy, and it is a great achievement to be where he is after less than a year of playing OCM, but after winning this trophy twice and also becoming an older team the bar should rise a bit for him. TVM dropped to division 7 purposely at the end of the season, and all his wins are from division 7 (mainly), 6 and Fast on Wheels in 5.
How about Himalaya Bikers? Started in june 2020, now around 200th spot. And this team has been competing in the 4th and 5th division the whole season, seeing all their 10 results are accomplished there.
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I think we might have discussed that. I'll give that a check.
Edit: we didn't discuss it in public, so I will add a poll about this to the form this season. Unless the entire committee feels like it should be a new rule immediately. I would definitely support it myself.
Edit: we didn't discuss it in public, so I will add a poll about this to the form this season. Unless the entire committee feels like it should be a new rule immediately. I would definitely support it myself.
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Re: Best Young Team
TVM has won it the last two seasons. Didn't we say it cannot be nominated, or was that for another category?
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The other two are both not first teams, but TVM is a very good candidate indeed, so I agree!
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2020 Teams
I am just extracting all teams beginning at 2020 :
3 teams with more 600 points :
TeamTVM 1045 pts (Win Tour Fast on Wheels) : 9 wins (19 results) ==> good candidate
Education First Team 730 pts : 3 wins (9 results) ==> no
Amazonia 730 pts : 3 wins (10 results) ==> no
TeamTVM to replace PetrolGas !!
3 teams with more 600 points :
TeamTVM 1045 pts (Win Tour Fast on Wheels) : 9 wins (19 results) ==> good candidate
Education First Team 730 pts : 3 wins (9 results) ==> no
Amazonia 730 pts : 3 wins (10 results) ==> no
TeamTVM to replace PetrolGas !!
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Yeah, but you can't know if the managers have had a previous team before, so that's something I'll always have to check.
I think if you could post the top 4/5 of the teams below 1 year old it would be great. Then we can look at if there's some good ones there.
I think if you could post the top 4/5 of the teams below 1 year old it would be great. Then we can look at if there's some good ones there.
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I have full classement of young team. I could publish it. 2 years it s maybe so much. I follow rules
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The rest are all meeting the requirements, so they are allowed to be nominated.
I do feel Sicco and Millican might be a bit on the Old side for teams that didn't win any classics, cups or tours. I think there might be a few younger teams that did win one of those, so I will take a look and see if I can find those somewhere today or tomorrow. Of course they did score very well, so they're not weird nominations any qay.
I do feel Sicco and Millican might be a bit on the Old side for teams that didn't win any classics, cups or tours. I think there might be a few younger teams that did win one of those, so I will take a look and see if I can find those somewhere today or tomorrow. Of course they did score very well, so they're not weird nominations any qay.
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PetrolGas has a former team, so they can't be nominated. I'll check it for the rest tomorrow.
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4th and 5th
4th
Name: JAVO
Team: CARO BIKE TEAM
Age: 1 yr, 8 months, 6 days
OCM Tour Rank: 107th
OCM Tour Points: 1256
1 win : Oslo Grand Prix (Div3)
6 other results, including 6 podiums (1 Div2, 5 Div3)
5th
Name: Petri
Team: PetrolGas
Age: 1 yr, 2 months, 21 days
OCM Tour Rank: 121th
OCM Tour Points: 1142
4 win : Copa de la Historia de los Andes(Div3) + 3 Div3
6 other results, including 2 stages Copa de la Historia de los Andes (Div3)+ 2 stages Volta ao Porto (Div3) + 2 Div3
Name: JAVO
Team: CARO BIKE TEAM
Age: 1 yr, 8 months, 6 days
OCM Tour Rank: 107th
OCM Tour Points: 1256
1 win : Oslo Grand Prix (Div3)
6 other results, including 6 podiums (1 Div2, 5 Div3)
5th
Name: Petri
Team: PetrolGas
Age: 1 yr, 2 months, 21 days
OCM Tour Rank: 121th
OCM Tour Points: 1142
4 win : Copa de la Historia de los Andes(Div3) + 3 Div3
6 other results, including 2 stages Copa de la Historia de los Andes (Div3)+ 2 stages Volta ao Porto (Div3) + 2 Div3
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3. Sicco
Name: sicco
Team: Sicco
Age: 1 yr, 8 months, 10 days
OCM Tour Rank: 99h
OCM Tour Points: 1357
1 win : Vodo lolo ka galili (Div3)
5 other results, including 4 podiums (3 Div2, 1 Div3) + 5th Copa de la Historia de los Andes (D3)
Team: Sicco
Age: 1 yr, 8 months, 10 days
OCM Tour Rank: 99h
OCM Tour Points: 1357
1 win : Vodo lolo ka galili (Div3)
5 other results, including 4 podiums (3 Div2, 1 Div3) + 5th Copa de la Historia de los Andes (D3)
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2. Millican
Name: James Munner
Team: Millican
Age: 1 yr, 9 months, 15 days
OCM Tour Rank: 94h
OCM Tour Points: 1403
3 wins : Munster Criterium (Div2), Hellur GP(Div3), Cuauhtemallan Cascade (Div3)
7 other results, including 6 podiums (2 Div2, 3 Div3, 1 Div2.1)
Team: Millican
Age: 1 yr, 9 months, 15 days
OCM Tour Rank: 94h
OCM Tour Points: 1403
3 wins : Munster Criterium (Div2), Hellur GP(Div3), Cuauhtemallan Cascade (Div3)
7 other results, including 6 podiums (2 Div2, 3 Div3, 1 Div2.1)
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1. Talwin
Name: Pensec
Team: Talwin
Age: 1 yr, 4 months, 28 days
OCM Tour Rank: 80th
OCM Tour Points: 1512
8 wins, including Pern Tour Sprint Classification and stage 4 Pern + (2 Div3, 3 Div3, 1 Div2.1)
7 other results, including 6 podiums (2 Div2, 3 Div3, 1 Div4)
Team: Talwin
Age: 1 yr, 4 months, 28 days
OCM Tour Rank: 80th
OCM Tour Points: 1512
8 wins, including Pern Tour Sprint Classification and stage 4 Pern + (2 Div3, 3 Div3, 1 Div2.1)
7 other results, including 6 podiums (2 Div2, 3 Div3, 1 Div4)
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Re: Best Young Team
Pre-Nominations:
None
Nominated but not allowed in because of rules:
Mali Mountain Men
Education First Team
None
Nominated but not allowed in because of rules:
Mali Mountain Men
Education First Team
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Best Young Team
- A team has to be younger than 2 real life years at the end of the season.
- A team has to be in at least Division 6 at the end of the season.
- The team has to be the first team of its manager that finished a full season. (you can't check this, so ignore this rule when nominating, I will do this)
It should be a lot easier to check than Breakthrough Team, because you'll be able to see the age of a team on the team page immediately instead of having to check the team history.
Format for this category:
Name:
Team:
Age:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
Age: 1 yr, 2 months, 4 days
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 1000
3 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (1 Div2, 2 Div3)
8 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 5 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
- A team has to be in at least Division 6 at the end of the season.
- The team has to be the first team of its manager that finished a full season. (you can't check this, so ignore this rule when nominating, I will do this)
It should be a lot easier to check than Breakthrough Team, because you'll be able to see the age of a team on the team page immediately instead of having to check the team history.
Format for this category:
Name:
Team:
Age:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)
Example:
Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
Age: 1 yr, 2 months, 4 days
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 1000
3 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (1 Div2, 2 Div3)
8 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 5 Div3)
Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe
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