Best Manager Outside Top Division

8 teams is fine btw.

It's a bug, but I would still count it.

Here's what I've gone with. There are 8 teams which I think is too much, but I thought I'd include them all and then remove the one(s) that we decide shouldn't be there. I removed Matrix from the original list and added CC Est, Sigue, Sprit and familytour.

Also I'm not sure if the cup YC counts. If it doesn't then Lokomotiva has one less win and CC has one less reuslt.



Name: Guy Pakeman
Team: Team Guy
OCM Tour Rank: 39th
OCM Tour Points: 1895
8 wins, including Norway Tour GC  (4 Div2, 3 Div3, 1U23)
7 other results, including 6th Vuelta a Valparaìso GC, 9th Perm Tour GC, 4th Copa de la Historia de los Andes (3 Div2, 4 Div3)


Name: Leolion
Team: Nikoline
OCM Tour Rank: 75th
OCM Tour Points: 1492
11 wins, including Rotterdam Classic, Copa de la Historia de los Andes (1 Div1.2, 4 Div3, 4 Div4, 2 U23)
10 other results, including 3rd World Championships (U23),4th Perm Tour GC, 6th Helsinki GP Mini, 8th Vuelta a Valparaìso GC, (3 Div2, 3 Div3, 4 U23)
Note: All riders from São Tomé


Name: TheoBos
Team: Pelles Gazelles
OCM Tour Rank: 51st
OCM Tour Points: 1712
13 wins, including Kangaroo Tour GC & YC (6 Div3, 2 Div4, 1 Div5, 1 Div6, 2 Div7, 1 U23)
10 other results, including 5th Kangaroo Tour GC, 2nd Kangaroo Tour YC, 7th Rotterdam Classic (6 Div3, 3 Div4, 1 Div7)


Name: Pierre Mrazique
Team: Lokomotiva Zvolen
OCM Tour Rank: 179th
OCM Tour Points: 719
11 wins, including Tian-Shen Stone City Cup GC & YC, Odyssey of the Oryx SC (5 Div5, 4 Div6, 2 Div7)
7 other results, including 3rd Odyssey of the Oryx GC, 2nd Odyssey of the Oryx YC,  (5 Div6, 2 Div7)
Notes: All Slovakian riders
Note: Don, could you confirm if the YC for the cup counts as a win? Or is it just a bug in the game?

Name: Taavi
Team: CC Est
OCM Tour Rank: 56th
OCM Tour Points: 1674
7 wins, including Perm Tour SC (1 Div2, 5 Div3, 2 U23)
16 other results, including 2nd Norway Tour SC, 4th Kangaroo Tour GC, 2nd Coppa della Famiglia del Don YC, 7th Giro di Montelbano GC,  (1 Div2, 14 Div3, 1 U23)


Name: Tony James
Team: Sigue Sigue Sputnik
OCM Tour Rank: 125th
OCM Tour Points: 1066
5 wins, including Edmonton Red Deer Tour GC (3 Div3, 2 Div4)
6 other results, including 3rd VCK Classic, 4th Giro di Montelbano GC (4 Div3, 2 Div4)

Name: Grey Goose
Team: Sprit i flaskene
OCM Tour Rank: 78th
OCM Tour Points: 1438
6 wins, including Volta da Lagoa dos Patos GC (1 Div2, 5 Div3)
9 other results, including 6th Rotterdam Classic (1 Div2, 6 Div3, 2 U23)

Name: david popescu
Team: familytour
OCM Tour Rank: 94th
OCM Tour Points: 1279
10 wins, including VCK Classic, Cesko-Slovensky Pohar (5 Div3, 1 Div4, 4 Div6)
7 other results, including 6th Edmonton Red Deer Tour GC, 2nd Cesko-Slovensky Pohar, (1 Div2, 2 Div3, 1 Div4, 3 Div6)

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll focus a little tomorrow and try to come up with a final list.

100% agree with Holwerda on this. I do have to remark that Sigue Sigue is a return manager, but he's been handicapped for quite a while, so still might be worth nominating here.

Personally I would rather nominate smaller teams like CC Est, Sigue Sigue Sputnik, Sprit i flaskene and taxde.
Big teams like Matrix Team and Pelles Gazelles can do better than they have done last season.

Yeah good idea on Lokomotiva, I was looking at them before. I've edited them in.

Nikoline
Wins: 11 Results: 21 with 1 small nation riders only.

Lokomotiva Zvolen
Wins: 11 Results: 18 with self-trained Slovakians only

This is what I've got so far:

Name: Thomas Anderson
Team: Matrix Team
OCM Tour Rank: 93rd
OCM Tour Points: 1284
3 wins, including  Volta ao Porto YC (3 Div2)
11 other results, including 3rd Cymru Taith, 7th Vuelta a Valparaìso GC, 5th Volta ao Porto GC, 2nd Giro di Montelbano GC (9 Div2, 2 Div3)


Name: Guy Pakeman
Team: Team Guy
OCM Tour Rank: 39th
OCM Tour Points: 1895
8 wins, including Norway Tour GC  (4 Div2, 3 Div3, 1U23)
7 other results, including 6th Vuelta a Valparaìso GC, 9th Perm Tour GC, 4th Copa de la Historia de los Andes (3 Div2, 4 Div3)


Name: Leolion
Team: Nikoline
OCM Tour Rank: 75th
OCM Tour Points: 1492
11 wins, including Rotterdam Classic, Copa de la Historia de los Andes (1 Div1.2, 4 Div3, 4 Div4, 2 U23)
10 other results, including 3rd World Championships (U23),4th Perm Tour GC, 6th Helsinki GP Mini, 8th Vuelta a Valparaìso GC, (3 Div2, 3 Div3, 4 U23)
Note: All riders from São Tomé


Name: TheoBos
Team: Pelles Gazelles
OCM Tour Rank: 51st
OCM Tour Points: 1712
13 wins, including Kangaroo Tour GC & YC (6 Div3, 2 Div4, 1 Div5, 1 Div6, 2 Div7, 1 U23)
10 other results, including 5th Kangaroo Tour GC, 2nd Kangaroo Tour YC, 7th Rotterdam Classic (6 Div3, 3 Div4, 1 Div7)

Name: Pierre Mrazique
Team: Lokomotiva Zvolen
OCM Tour Rank: 179th
OCM Tour Points: 719
11 wins, including Tian-Shen Stone City Cup GC & YC, Odyssey of the Oryx SC (5 Div5, 4 Div6, 2 Div7)
7 other results, including 3rd Odyssey of the Oryx GC, 2nd Odyssey of the Oryx YC, (5 Div6, 2 Div7)
Notes: All Slovakian riders
Note: Don, could you confirm if the YC for the cup counts as a win? Or is it just a bug in the game?



Other possible teams:

familytour:10 wins, 7 more results. Won VCK Classic and Cesko-Slovensky Pohar
Vagabundos: 5 wins, 6 more results. Won RotM, results in Critérium la Grasse and Zyte GP


I've just gone through teams who won tours and classics so far. I can take a look tomorrow to see if there are teams with a lot of wins, but if anyone has any suggestions you can mention them.

Manager is not allowed to have scored any points or results in Top Division (1.1 is allowed), but is allowed to be ranked in Top Division at the end of the season.

The format for this category:

Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
wins, including  mention classic and tour wins, do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results, including mention classic and tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)

Name: John Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 135th
OCM Tour Points: 1000
3 wins, including Tour of Hawaii, and Kangaroo GC (1 Div2, 2 Div3)
8 other results, including 7th place Mito-Tokyo (1 Div1.1, 2 Div2, 5 Div3)

Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate John Doe