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Post  Yuri Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:30 am

Go ahead Smile

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Post  Don Hamstre Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:15 am

I hope you will forgive me for pushing my own opinion here, but this is the list I will put on the form:

Hetland
Tigre
Zeydeveld
Van Der Heijden
Buzbeda
Fikret

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Post  Llotyhy Tue Feb 19, 2019 1:49 pm

Maybe it's just me, but in my opinion it's not possible for any rider in any category to be the best type-x rider of a season without ever having won a race. Old rider is an exception of course.

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Post  Don Hamstre Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:46 am

I'd say Fogelström, Demenok, Bright, Weijie, Odozovic, and Buzbeda all out. But I guess that leaves us with too few nominees. :p
Erdogan Fikret should probably be in over any of them btw. A win, two results and 550 points inside category. Guilherme Quintino has a win and 540 points, so I might also prefer him.
This a a tough category though, so few Hillers consistently performing.

WT Results don't count btw, so Bright should definitely be out.

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Post  Yuri Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:25 am

I prefer to keep Hao Weijie instead of Mohamed Ashour Buzbeda due to the amount of points inside category that he has (590 against less than 388). Also Weijie has 4 results inside category and Buzbeda only has 1 victory (a classic yeah, but...)

You can mention the 7th place in Bergen Rundtur for Fogelström -> Done

You should not mention the Essex GC for Odovic. -> In that case Odovic is not a bid contender... I would write him off then.


What do you guys think?
Open cases:
- Hao Weijie
- Mohamed Ashour Buzbeda
- Mirnes Odovic

My opinion:
- Yes
- No
- No

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Post  Llotyhy Tue Feb 19, 2019 6:52 am

I'd eliminate all those guys without wins to be honest and then add Buzbeda like Holwerda suggested.

Hetland
Tigre
Zeydeveld
Van Der Heijden
Odovic
Buzbeda

But that's just my suggestion. Wink

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Post  Don Hamstre Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:43 pm

Good list indeed, but 9 is too much, we need to eliminate one of them. I can't get on the site atm, so not sure if Odovic has the right points inside category. If not, he gets my vote for the kick, otherwise it's Fogelström.

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Post  Holwerda Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:02 pm

Great list of good riders.
I would have put Mohamed Ashour Buzbeda in instead of Weijie though. Winning the VCK Classic in front of him.

With checking I found two small errors:
You can mention the 7th place in Bergen Rundtur for Fogelström
You should not mention the Essex GC for Odovic.


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Post  Yuri Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:27 pm

Name: Aleksander Hetland
Team: Team WonderDee
OCM Tour Rank: 12th
OCM Tour Points: 1050
Points inside category: 1050 (100%)
3 wins inside category (3 div. 2)
3 other results inside category including a 8th in Lappi Sea GP (1 div. 1.1, 1 div. 2 and 1 WT)

Name: Feliciano Tigre
Team: Byttingvik
OCM Tour Rank: 11th
OCM Tour Points: 1070
Points inside category: 930 (87%)
1 win inside category (1 div. 2)
3 other results inside category (3 div. 2)

Name: Sietse Zeydeveld
Team: Opium Fueled
OCM Tour Rank: 33rd
OCM Tour Points: 850
Points inside category: 850 (100%)
1 win inside category (1 div. 2)
3 other results inside category (3 div. 2)

Name: Elbert Van Der Heijden
Team: Manisaspor
OCM Tour Rank: 41st
OCM Tour Points: 810
Points inside category: 810 (100%)
4 wins inside category including Lappi Sea GP (1 div. 1, 3 div. 2)
2 other results inside category (2 div. 2)

Name: Jason Bright
Team: Andeby
OCM Tour Rank: 30th
OCM Tour Points: 870
Points inside category: 650 (75%)
0 wins inside category
3 other results inside category (2 div. 1, 1 WT)

Name: Ivan Demenok
Team: Team Chili
OCM Tour Rank: 48th
OCM Tour Points: 760
Points inside category: 610 (80%)
0 wins inside category
3 other results inside category (3 div. 1)

Name: Hao Weijie
Team: Mark Pro Team
OCM Tour Rank: 56th
OCM Tour Points: 740
Points inside category: 590 (80%)
0 wins inside category
4 other results inside category including 2nd in VCK Classic (2 div. 2, 2 div. 3)

Name: Valentin Fogelström
Team: Drake Racing
OCM Tour Rank: 111th
OCM Tour Points: 570
Points inside category: 570 (100%)
0 wins inside category
3 other results inside category including 7th in Bergen Rundtur (3 div. 1)

Name: Mirnes Odovic
Team: V02maXXers
OCM Tour Rank: 97th
OCM Tour Points: 594
Points inside category: 370 (62%)
2 wins inside category including Bergen Rundtur and Essex Tour (2 div. 1)
2 other results inside category (2 div. 1)


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Post  Don Hamstre Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:18 pm

Points inside category count for the following:

- normal races or tour stages where HL is higher than DH, CB, TQ and TT, HL is higher or equal to CL, and FR and/or SP aren't 2+ higher than HL
- No Tour GC results

List of top and zyte division races counted is here: http://www.cyclingsimulator.com/forum/general/254864


New: use of Chilibot

Thanks to Alexander from Team Chili, nominating in specialist categories gets a little bit easier. If you want an overview of the top-20 riders of this category based on points scored in races inside category in Division 1 t/m 3, do the following:

- Go to the OCM Chat
- look if 'chilibot' is online (it usually is)
- type in '/query chilibot'
- In the individual conversation screen with chilibot, type in 'q awardType 44 HL'
- You will now get a response from chilibot, giving you a link to the top-20, with points scored attached.


Beware however, this list does not take into account results in Div4 or lower, so always check if a rider has scored in any of those divisions before posting his points inside category. Also, make sure you don't miss that great rider who has won 10 races, but never made it to the higher divisions.


Format for this category:

Name:
Team:
OCM Tour Rank:
OCM Tour Points:
Points inside category: (percentage between brackets)
wins inside category, including  mention classic wins (Divisions in which races were won)
other results inside category, including mention classic results (Divisions in which results were achieved

Example:

Name: Hank Doe
Team: Invisible Riders
OCM Tour Rank: 12th
OCM Tour Points: 1200
Points inside category: 800 (66%)
2 wins inside category, including Bergen Rundtur (1 Div1, 1 Div2)
5 other results inside category (1 Div1, 1 Div1.1, 3 Div2)

Please do it exactly like this, just don't nominate Hank Doe lol!

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