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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  Don Hamstre on Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:34 pm

Lincoln Hannity 10
Jeffrey Napier 10
Raúl Gonzales 9
Henning Olufsen 8
Sal Dambrosio 6
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Herman Stevens 5
Ludvig Karlsen 4
Barthélémy Besse 4
Walter Kamgamba 3
Finn Orre 2

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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  Don Hamstre on Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:33 pm

Ludvig Karlsen NO
Sal Dambrosio YES
Raúl Gonzales YES
Walter Kamgamba MAYBE
Jeffrey Napier YES
Henning Olufsen YES
Barthélémy Besse MAYBE
Finn Orre NO
Lincoln Hannity YES
Herman Stevens MAYBE

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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  TeamQuetzal on Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:24 am

Ludvig Karlsen - MAYBE
Sal Dambrosio - YES
Raúl Gonzales - YES
Walter Kamgamba - NO
Jeffrey Napier - YES
Henning Olufsen - NO
Barthélémy Besse - NO
Finn Orre - NO
Lincoln Hannity - YES
Herman Stevens - NO
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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  DeRodeLantaarn on Thu May 31, 2018 11:41 pm

Ludvig Karlsen - MAYBE
Sal Dambrosio - NO
Raúl Gonzales - YES
Walter Kamgamba - NO
Jeffrey Napier - YES
Henning Olufsen - YES
Barthélémy Besse - NO
Finn Orre - MAYBE
Lincoln Hannity - YES
Herman Stevens - MAYBE

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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  PJMcycles on Thu May 31, 2018 1:37 pm

Ludvig Karlsen - MAYBE
Sal Dambrosio -MAYBE
Raúl Gonzales - MAYBE
Walter Kamgamba - MAYBE
Jeffrey Napier - MAYBE
Henning Olufsen - MAYBE
Barthélémy Besse - MAYBE
Finn Orre - MAYBE
Lincoln Hannity - MAYBE
Herman Stevens -MAYBE

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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  Holwerda on Wed May 30, 2018 9:19 pm

Ludvig Karlsen - MAYBE
Sal Dambrosio - MAYBE
Raúl Gonzales - MAYBE
Walter Kamgamba - MAYBE
Jeffrey Napier - YES
Henning Olufsen - YES
Barthélémy Besse - MAYBE
Finn Orre - NO
Lincoln Hannity - MAYBE
Herman Stevens - NO

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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  Llotyhy on Wed May 30, 2018 9:47 am

Ludvig Karlsen - NO
Sal Dambrosio - NO
Raúl Gonzales - MAYBE
Walter Kamgamba - NO
Jeffrey Napier - MAYBE
Henning Olufsen - MAYBE
Barthélémy Besse - MAYBE
Finn Orre - NO
Lincoln Hannity - YES
Herman Stevens - YES

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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  Don Hamstre on Sun May 27, 2018 8:56 am

Hahaha, yeah, I can understand the love for sprinters. But having sprint tours is something unrealistic to this game , a true tour rider is never a sprinter. In the past, sprinters have won this category, which annoyed the heck out of me, so I don't want to have them in anymore.

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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  PJMcycles on Sun May 27, 2018 7:11 am

* was an aid to my editing, should of been deleted when I finished. (put next to the ones you suggested to keep. So I did not delete them by mistake).(now deleted).
Mancuso was me sticking up for sprinters in tours. Even after you did the cut lol. (stay off list).
If I do this catagory again I'll take a closer look at YC. Lincoln Hannity and Herman Stevens deserve to be here.


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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  Don Hamstre on Sat May 26, 2018 7:33 pm

Once again good job. I did edit the format again, so please make it like this next time as well. I can understand your confusion about which results to mention where though, I probably need to clarify my format posts better.
Also, deleted Mancuso, he's a sprinter.
And do the *'s mean that the team dropped? Not sure, so I left them in.

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Revised Tour rider list

Post  PJMcycles on Sat May 26, 2018 4:17 pm

Name:   Ludvig Karlsen  
Team:  Drake Racing
3 wins, including Vuelta de los Castillos GC (both div 1)
no other results       

Name:   Sal Dambrosio
Team:  Nefal
1 win  Germany Tour GC  (div 1)                        
2 other results (both Div1)

Name:  Raúl Gonzales
Team:  Team Oasis
3 wins, including Volta ao Porto GC  (all div 2)                        
3 other results, including  6th  GC Vuelta de los Castillos   (1 div 1, 2 div 2)          

Name:  Walter Kamgamba
Team:  Nikoline
3 wins, including Vuelta a Valparaìso GC and SC (both div 2)                  
2 other results  (both div 2)                  

Name:  Jeffrey Napier
Team: Lots o Huggin Bear
2 wins, including  Norway Tour GC (both div3)                          
6 other results, including 3rd GC Vuelta a Valparaìso (2 div 2, 4 Div3)  

Name: Henning Olufsen  
Team: Hilltup
1 win,  Perm Tour GC  (div 3)                            
2 other results, 2nd  GC  Norway Tour, and 7th GC  Vuelta a Valparaìso (1 div 2, 1 div 3)                            

Name:  Barthélémy Besse
Team:  rooney17
2 wins, including Race of the Minutemen (both div 4)
1 other result,  4th GC Edmonton Red Deer Tour (div 4)  

Name: Finn Orre  
Team: Matrix team
2 wins, including Fast on Wheels GC    (both div5)                    
4 other results, including 2nd GC  Cymru Taith (1 div2, 3 div5)  
                         
Name:  Lincoln Hannity
Team:  Ello Ello
3 wins, including Norway YC, and RotM YC (2 Div3, 1 Div4)
7 other results, including 3rd RotM GC, 4th Norway GC, and 8th Perm GC (3rd YC) (6 Div3, 1 Div4)  
                       
Name:  Herman Stevens  
Team:  sivac
1 win, Perm YC (Div3)
5 other results, including 2nd Perm GC, 8th Norway GC (3rd YC), and 3rd Valparaiso YC (1 Div2, 4 Div3)


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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  Don Hamstre on Sat May 26, 2018 2:31 pm

As promised, I'll give voting tips in every category. These will also be in the voting form.

Voting tips:

- Do not vote based on the fame of a rider. Only the results from season 44 matter for winning an award in this category.
- Please take a little extra time to look at the team strength compared to the division in which the tour was won. Dropping down to win a tour is a common tactic. Winning in Div6 with a Div2 team is far less impressive than winning in Div2 with a Div2 team.
- A GC win is of course more valuable than a YC win, but a YC win is more valuable for this category than a SC win.


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Re: Best Tour Rider

Post  Don Hamstre on Sat May 26, 2018 2:26 pm

Sprinting and cobbling tours I usually never consider unless someone manages to dominate all of them in a season.

I'd go for Sal, Raul Gonzales, Olufsen, Kamgamba, Napier, Besse, Karlsen, Orre.
Lincoln Hannity needs to be added, he didn't win a GC, but won two YC's and finished 3rd in another.
I'd also add Herman Stevens of sivac, he might not have won a tour, but ended up on the podium of the YC in three of them, winning one YC, so that is a decent overall season.


Also, please add the total number of wins in tour, so also stage wins. Just don't mention those in text, only in the number.

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Tour Rider Nominees

Post  PJMcycles on Thu May 24, 2018 3:03 pm

Here is a list of all the tour winners, no one won more than one tour. Need someone to pick out the Important tours to cut this list down to a manageable number. (As I don't Know which tours are more difficult to win / have more kudos in winning).

Name:  Gale Reason  
Team:  Jonas Pro Cycling
wins    Tweedaagse van Antwerpen  div 1  

Name:   Ludvig Karlsen  
Team:  Drake Racing
wins    Vuelta de los Castillos   div 1

Name:   Paul Crawford
Team:  Comfius
wins     Essex Tour   div 1                

Name:   Sal Dambrosio
Team:  Nefal
wins  Germany Tour  div 1                        

Name:  Pascual Mancuso
Team:  mapei bianchi
Wins  Nederlandse Tour   div 1.1                    
Other  2nd SC Germany Tour  div 1

Name:  Raúl Gonzales
Team:  Team Oasis
wins   Volta ao Porto    div 2                        
other  6th  GC Vuelta de los Castillos   div 1          

Name:  Niguel Verme.
Team:  Abelixe
wins     Haute-Normandie  div 2                    
other  1st YC Haute-Normandie  div 2  

Name:   Ciceron Narvaez
Team:  Abelixe
wins  Cymru Taith   div2                            

Name:  Walter Kamgamba
Team:  Nikoline
wins    Vuelta a Valparaìso  div 2                  
other  1st SC  Vuelta a Valparaìso  div 2                  

Name:  Wubbe Molhoek
Team: Bing Team
wins  Giro di Montelbano   div 3              
other  1st YC Giro di Montelbano   div 3                

Name:  Jeffrey Napier
Team: Lots o Huggin Bear
wins  Norway Tour   div3                          
other  3rd GC Vuelta a Valparaìso  div 2  

Name: Henning Olufsen  
Team: Hilltup
wins  Perm Tour      div 3                            
other 2nd  GC  Norway Tour   div3
         7th GC  Vuelta a Valparaìso  div 2                            

Name:  Alari Arjasepp    
Team: Ocaña
wins Kangaroo Tour   div 3                        
other 6th GC Edmonton Red Deer Tour div 4  

Name:  Andrea Giannoni  
Team:  de stamper
wins   Volta da Lagoa dos Patos  div 3      
other  1st YC Volta da Lagoa dos Patos  div 3
 
Name:  Anže Hrovat
Team:  V02maXXers
wins  Edmonton Red Deer Tour div 4      

Name:  Barthélémy Besse
Team:  rooney17
wins Race of the Minutemen   div 4
other  4th GC Edmonton Red Deer Tour div 4    
 
Name:  Roar Brun  
Team: ACAB
wins Giro di Sicilia   div4                          
other 2nd SP  Fast on Wheels    div5                    

Name:   Jonathan Berthelsen
Team:  TD rockets
Wins  Monte Rosa Tour  div 5                  

Name: Finn Orre    
Team: Matrix team
wins  Fast on Wheels    div5                    
other 2nd GC  Cymru Taith   div2                            

Name:  Daniele Gatto  
Team:  Schiavi di Don
wins Odyssey of the Oryx  div 6              
other 1st YC  Odyssey of the Oryx  div 6
         2nd SC  Odyssey of the Oryx  div 6

Name: Beniamino Giubic  
Team:  mortenryt
wins Tour of the Sanreizan   div 7          
other  1st   YC  Tour of the Sanreizan   div 7        
           5th GC Odyssey of the Oryx  div 6
          3rd  YC Odyssey of the Oryx  div 6


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Best Tour Rider

Post  Don Hamstre on Fri May 18, 2018 2:41 pm

Remember, if you're nominating (or voting for that matters), GC's and YC's are always more important than SC's. Only nominate a sprinter if he's actually gone and win a tour (of course SP tours still count), or if he did extraordinarily well in multiple ones.


Format for this category:

Name:
Team:
wins inside category, including  mention tour wins,do not mention stages (Divisions in which races were won)
other results inside category, including mention tour results, do not mention stages (Divisions in which results were achieved)

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